Do government agencies need to be armed?

A good read about armed Federal agencies until 2003 is Federal Agents: The Growth of Federal Law Enforcement in America, by Jeffrey B. Bumgarner .

(Partly online @ Google books)

Cant find it Walter.

Working on that tan Wally?

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having worked with a few, Ive found that the DOE has a damned ARMY of its own. Imagine the Post Office with guns.

What McG said.

Your insinuation relative to the color of Obama's skin is not only insulting its ridiculous.

You insist on hard data to prove points with which you disagree (laying claim to some lofty position of rhetorical integrity) but throw out crap like this all of the time.

EPA, BLM, and DOE agents are not placing themselves in danger on a daily, weekly, monthly or even annual basis.

The Bundy affair wouldn't have required the BLM agents to "waste money" and wait for back up. They went in armed anticipating, and inciting, problems. They could have very easily arranged to have true law enforcement agents accompany them. The guy hadn't paid the grazing fees for something like 20 years. What was the rush?

Oh and yes, if it is ultimately, and marginally more costly not to arm government agents who have no rational need to be armed, I 'll happily contribute to funding it through my taxes. Chances are it will be cheaper than arming them all.

You are a perfect example of the sort of person a would be tyrannical American president can rely upon. All he or she need do is frame the power grab in terms of countering/defeating your ideological foes and you will be there cheering from the sidelines.

And I use the term "ideological" as respects your opinion, very loosely.

Should our next president be a Republican and he or she continue or increase the profligate arming of government agents, I will be just as pissed off, and demanding a change, while max and parados will be frothing at the mouth.

He is paid. Who knows if he evens means it. Which goes toward character either way you slice it. Saying it is not a crime because you can get away with it is a terrible, selfish, and amoral mindset.

you are ill informed

The citizens shud all be very well armed with their personal weapons,
but government personnel shud be un-armed on-the-job
(except the military, during war).





David

Why do you say that? Or is this just your mindless gut reaction? Why should government employees be second-class citizens?

Department of Education employees are constantly in danger?

Please inform me.

That is a joke. They can't be fired, they can only be transferred. They are paid when put on leave for legal reasons. What private sector employees receive the same treatment?

An EPA employee recently received a promotion for watching pornography all day long.

Most police officers don't place themselves in that much danger on a daily, weekly or monthly basis. What's your point?

They went in armed because Bundy had made threats against anyone rounding up his cattle.

You are going to compare normal police officers to agent for the Dept of Education? How many traffic stops do agents from the DOE make? How many warrents do they serve? You have just done a major insult to the police depts across the US.

Talk about someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Ask a cop about his job and an agent from the DOE and ask them who has a greater chance of dying in the line of duty. How many DOE agents have been shot this year?

I guess all those armed EPA agents that invaded Alaska were armed because Alaskans threatened not to give them a drink.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/EPA-alaska-raid-/2013/09/15/id/525730/

DEPARTMENT of ENERGY is the DOE ALSO. It is the first listed of the DOe's Dept Ed, wasa spinnoff after DOE's(energy dept) mission was established.
DOE has the responsibility of all nuke plants, and manufacture of fissionable materials and reactore grade nuke fuels.

Its a dirty job but somebody's gotta try to protect the stuff.

I'm not the one confusing armed DoE agents with employees of the DoE. Armed agents have duties similar to many police officers. Most police officers don't do traffic stops. DoE agents serve warrants so it's you that is confused about how different they are.