Donald Sterling

@firefly,

But V was said to have said so re the wife's attorneys demanding it, on whatever link that was (it was fairly early on in this mishmash, but maybe I just reported that I read that, and didn't cite a link). Not in the mood to look it up now or chase it online.. sleepy. Maybe tomorrow. But in any case, it must have been superceded.

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@ossobuco,

It may be recordings of his wife that you recall discussion of

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/05/donald-sterling-tapes-lawsuit-clippers-owner-criminal-charges/

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Stiviano is in possession of controversial recordings of Shelly “cursing like a longshoreman,” according to a source.

But according to an insider familiar with the situation, “Shelly never gave her permission to be tape-recorded by that woman. If indeed, Shelly was tape-recorded by her, she will absolutely pursue criminal charges against her. [Stiviano] can count on that.”

The Shelly tapes — in which the estranged wife of disgraced NBA owner Donald is heard speaking in an “extremely candid, unfiltered” tone — will be made public because her lawyers have demanded it as part of the discovery process in the next several weeks, sources tell Radar.

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@ossobuco,

Mrs Sterling is demanding the return of all the gifts--cars, her apartment, etc.--that her husband gave V. She claims her husband used their marital community assets for these things without her permission, and she's suing V to get them back.

The Sterlings have done this before. Both Mr & Mrs S sued one of his previous girlfriends for the return of things Donald had given to her when he was involved with her.

I just saw ehBeth's post. That may be the tape Mrs Sterling wants, not the one that's led to Donald's downfall.

What a cast of characters Rolling Eyes

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@firefly,

Perhaps the wealthy are not like the rest of us after all.

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@BillRM,

DAVID wrote:

Don (allegedly) knew that his mistress was taping him.
He ASSumed that she wud not hurt him.

U think he still believes that ?

BillRM wrote:

How can anyone live without having people they trust as a matter of course?

Just by being cognizant of the well-known history of human nature
for 1OOOs of years, including, but not limited to, Samson n Delilah.

Loyalty has proven to be very un-certain, risky, un-predictable.

How about your first wife ?

Be aware of human nature, when dealing with humen.
That also applies to animals. Thay have un-expectedly snapped
with catastrophic results (e.g., tiger attack on Roy Horn in 2008,
or many horse bites, some chimp bites, cats, etc.). One needs to be defensively prepared.

Have I answered your question, satisfactorily ?

David

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@hawkeye10,

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Perhaps the wealthy are not like the rest of us after all.

I wouldn't judge all wealthy people by the Sterlings.

But I am starting to find the tabloid aspects of this story, and the characters involved, more interesting than anything else about it.

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@joefromchicago,

joefromchicago wrote:

Thomas wrote:
In that case, go Sterling! I hope he escalates it all the way to the Supreme Court, makes it overturn Federal Baseball Club v. National League, and gets the whole bunch of these sports rackets shut down.

Yeah, stick it to the man!

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@firefly,

The most interesting thing to me so far is that it seems that both Sterlings give a **** is deeply broken. I am taking it as an example of the insulating effects of massive wealth. This couple seems to be a textbook example of why we should not let individuals have too much wealth, or come by it too easily (speculation in this case).

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

The most interesting thing to me so far is that it seems that both Sterlings give a **** is deeply broken. I am taking it as an example of the insulating effects of massive wealth. This couple seems to be a textbook example of why we should not let individuals have too much wealth, or come by it too easily (speculation in this case).

Where in the hell does the collective
get jurisdiction to interfere in that ?????

We Individuals owe it to ourselves to hold the damned collective in check,
to avoid another North Korea here.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Where in the hell does the collective
get jurisdiction to interfere in that ?????

All of the wealth on your balance sheet belongs to the collective, it is merely on loan to you. If can be repossessed at any time.

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@hawkeye10,

None of it does.
All decent Americans will fight to DEGRADE the damned collective.
It s dangerous. Collectivism gave us communist slavery and the 3rd Reich and Hawkeye.

The Individual must hold the collective in check.

David

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@hawkeye10,

A happy family this isn't.

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Donald Sterling Son-in-Law
You're A Racist
And I Don't Care If You Fire Me For Saying It
4/28/2014

Donald Sterling's son-in-law, Director of Basketball Administration for the Clippers who helps run the day-to-day operation of the team, tells TMZ Sports what his father-in-law did is ignorant and racist ... and if that costs him his job ... so be it.

Here are the words of his son-in-law Eric Miller:

"I find the statements and representations made by the Clippers' team owner to be deplorable and disgusting. There is no room in sports or society in general, for racism."

Miller goes on: "I pledge my full support for the wonderful players, coaches and staff members of the Clippers organization. I have complete faith that Commissioner Silver will deal with this matter swiftly and severely."

And then Miller says, "If these comments should happen to cost me my employment with the team, it is but a small price to pay to speak out against ignorance and racism."

Donald Sterling's daughter, Joanna Sterling Miller -- who is married to Eric -- says, "I am devastated and saddened by the cruel and insensitive comments expressed in these audio tapes."
http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/28/donald-sterling-son-in-law-racist-clippers-daughter/#ixzz31eqBV2fA

Last year, one of Sterling's two sons was found dead in his apartment.
http://www.malibutimes.com/news/article_a061f352-5a79-11e2-a966-0019bb2963f4.html

And this is tabloid stuff with a lot of dirt about Sterling being a child abuser, an exhibitionist, and other things...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616878/EXCLUSIVE-Donald-Sterling-stripped-bare-Disgraced-Clippers-boss-violent-bully-paraded-NAKED-kids-friends-calls-Christians-STUPID-whipped-son-belt-told-stop-eating-like-n-er.html

Until this current controversy, I had never heard of Donald Sterling before.

The Sterling family saga, and his life, would make quite a movie.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Here are the words of his son-in-law Eric Miller:

"I find the statements and representations made by the Clippers' team owner to be deplorable and disgusting.
There is no room in sports or society in general, for racism."

Miller goes on: "I pledge my full support for the wonderful players, coaches and staff members of the Clippers organization.
I have complete faith that Commissioner Silver will deal with this matter swiftly and severely."

We shud all take a lesson in this qua the future LOYALTY
that we shud expect of the friends and relatives that we benefit.

Historically, gratitude has not counted for much.

I wonder if Eric Miller is going to refund his salary to his boss, in protest,
like the hospital did with his research donation.

Surely, when Eric Miller applies for his NEXT job,
his prospective employer will be eager for the loyalty that he has demonstrated.

Will Donald visit his estate lawyer
to take another look at who will benefit from his will ????

David

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@hawkeye10,

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why we should not let individuals have too much wealth, or come by it too easily (speculation in this case).

Strange as any number of individuals that had been, or on far far wealthy them the Stirlings that had not reacted in a similar manner.

The Gates and their foundation come to mind along with many others such through out history, such as the Ford foundation and even dating back all the way to Ben Frankin trust

Frankin one of the most wealthy men of this time set up his trust to run for 200 years after his death to aid in the education of the young men of the city of Philadelphia and after 200 years to be ended with all funds then being divide to other local charities.

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@BillRM,

Sterling has the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation.

No one is saying he hasn't been philanthropic. In fact, he broadcasts his philanthropy, and photo, on billboards and in newspaper ads, as he did with that $3 million pledge to UCLA.

His problem right now, is that some charities and non-profits--including UCLA--are saying they don't want his money, because of his views. He's finding that his money can't erase everything else about him, and some charities don't want their name associated with him, and they don't want their acceptance of his money seen as any sort of endorsement of him.

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@ehBeth,

No, that's a new one on me.. (oy vey). I'll nose around to see if I can find it after some more coffee. Not that it matters now, just to see if I can nab it. But, maybe that is related and what the blurb I saw was talking about.

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@firefly,

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His problem right now, is that some charities and non-profits--including UCLA--are saying they don't want his money, because of his views

That seems more of a problem for those charities, who are openly placing the needs of their clients behind their desire to be PC.

There are one hell of a lot of people in need in one form or another who will take his funds after all.

As a footnote, if I would happen to had known that a charity that is asking me for support is at the same time turning their noses at large sums of funding for the soul reason of being PC they would not get a dime from me.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

That seems more of a problem for those charities, who are openly placing the needs of their clients behind their desire to be PC.

I have to agree with you on this one. The mission of charities is to fund research, cure sick people, or whatever purpose they exist for. If management prioritizes looking chivalrous over serving their charity's mission, that's not a good thing.

And come to think of it, that's my view of this whole affair in a nutshell. I don't like racists. I approve of naming and shaming them. But I disapprove of disgruntled girlfriends illegally bugging private conversations so they can entrap their boyfriends. I disapprove of huge media campaigns to drive someone out of town based on such illegally-bugged conversations. And I disapprove of charities side-tracking their mission to partake in such campaigns. (Though I would except the UCLA, which was clearly reacting to a bad-faith misrepresentation by Mr Sterling.) If methods like these are the price of driving Mr Sterling out of town, I'd rather not pay it and put up with him remaining in his position.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

R u in Germany now ?

No, I'm still in New Jersey.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
why we should not let individuals have too much wealth, or come by it too easily (speculation in this case).

Strange as any number of individuals that had been, or on far far wealthy them the Stirlings that had not reacted in a similar manner.

The Gates and their foundation come to mind along with many others such through out history, such as the Ford foundation and even dating back all the way to Ben Frankin trust

Frankin one of the most wealthy men of this time set up his trust to run for 200 years after his death to aid in the education of the young men of the city of Philadelphia and after 200 years to be ended with all funds then being divide to other local charities.

Hawkeye knows that the poverty-stricken have a sterling record
of immaculately perfect conduct. Hawkeye tells us that the poor
NEVER DO ANYTHING RONG. Right, Comrade Hawkeye ?

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