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The Real Story Behind the Phony Canceled Health Insurance Scandal

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 26 Apr, 2014 04:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

There are only two possibilities.
1. ObamaCare provides better health care at lower cost to their employees. Don't forget, the employee share of the monthly premiums have been going up for the past decade or more, and the employer realized that they couldn't compete on quality.
2. It gave the company an excuse to drop their health benefit to let their employees apply to ACA - to lower the payroll cost.


I saw a discussion on C-Span that included an expert on health care. He said that there is no doubt that Ocare will evolve into a single-payor program. I have my doubts on this inasmuch as German-care is essentially identical to Ocare and has existed for many decades, and is still not a single-payor program.

Ocare will definitely be cheaper than the old program. The latter had annual cost increases about three times the rate of increases in the cost-of-living. And this was despite that, under the old plan, sick people were either excluded from plans or kicked out of them.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 26 Apr, 2014 04:48 pm
@Advocate,
Good observation. Why people can't see what some of us 'see' is a mystery. We've had double-digit health insurance premium increases before ObamaCare.

From USAToday.
Quote:
New data signal smaller jump in health care costs
Kelly Kennedy, USA TODAY 8:47 p.m. EDT April 16, 2014

WASHINGTON — Statisticians working with insurers to project next year's insurance premium rates say they expect to see an average increase of about 7%, well below the feared double-digit increases making recent headlines.

"The double-rate increases we've been hearing are probably exaggerated," says Dave Axene, a fellow with the Society of Actuaries, adding that there would be wide variation across the country. "That's not what we're seeing from the actuarial organizations — I guess we're being a little bit more optimistic."

Axene says that as insurers dig through the new health exchange enrollees to figure out their ages and health conditions to determine next year's premiums, he expects an overall increase of 6% to 8.5%. He bases that on work he and others within the society have done with insurance clients. Before the Affordable Care Act, premiums rose an average of 7-10% a year.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2014 07:04 am
Polls Show Rising Acceptance for Obamacare
The Fiscal Times
By Brianna Ehley 3 hours ago

Polls Show Rising Acceptance for Obamacare


In February, one Florida restaurant chain—Gator’s Dockside -- made headlines for slapping a one percent “Obamacare surcharge” on customers’ bills. The chain’s owners said the surcharge was necessary to offset the new costs associated with the Affordable Care Act.

Under the law, businesses with 50 or more full-time employees will be required to provide health coverage for their employees by 2015 or pay a penalty for each worker.

Many major companies say the new expenses will likely be passed onto the consumer—though presumably in a more-subtle manner than Gator’s Dockside’s approach.

Though the Florida restaurant’s owners said the move to add Obamacare on every receipt was not political, the story played into the GOP’s message that Obamacare could have a harmful effect on businesses and consumers.

As it turns out, the majority of Americans say they are okay with businesses adding a nominal surcharge to each bill in order to help pay for their employees health coverage.

That’s according to a new survey from Bankrate.com, which found that 68 percent of those polled say they don’t mind paying a higher bill so businesses can provide their workers with insurance. Younger people especially seemed to approve of this approach—about 64 percent of 18-29 year olds, while only 39 percent of people 65 and older said they were okay with this practice.

“While most Americans may be able to swallow an extra 25 cents on their bill at their favorite restaurant, a sizable chunk (22 percent) said they would stop going to the business. I can only imagine this number increasing if businesses try to charge too much,” Bankrate.com insurance analyst Doug Whiteman said in a statement.


Still, for the time being, the survey’s findings are more good news for the White House—which has enjoyed a slew of recent polls suggesting that the public’s perception of the ACA is beginning to improve.

Just last week, The New York Times and the Kaiser Family Foundation released a poll showing that the majority of people in Republican-dominated southern states said they favor keeping the law and making fixes to it, rather than repealing it.

An ABC News/ Washington Post poll shows support for the law has crept up to 49 percent-- its highest level since the troubled rollout last fall, when just 40 percent approved of the law. The law’s popularity has surged along with enrollment in the health exchanges—which topped 8 million as of April 15.

The president and Democrats rallied victoriously around the final enrollment numbers. “The law is working as it is intended,” President Obama declared in the White House Rose Garden. "The debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay,"

Still, the majority of Americans continue to have an unfavorable view of the law, and Republicans are relying on this sentiment to continue into the midterms. (this number includes those, like me who prefer Single Payer but support ACA as a bridge)

Obamacare seems to be the GOP’s strategy this coming election season despite some of the good news revolving around the law. Some Republicans are running with messages vowing to repeal the law.

Others, including House Speaker John Boehner, express doubt about those plans. Repealing the law “isn’t the answer,” Boehner said at a Rotary Club meeting in Ohio on Thursday.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2014 09:30 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Boehner must be an idiot; he brought the repeal of Obamacare to the floor of the House 53 times knowing full well the Senate and Obama will never sign it.

He's got to be removed from congress.

RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 03:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Not by the people of Ohio.
Wish the house leader had to run nationally.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 03:37 pm
@RABEL222,
Ohioans what another conservative, but Boehner's rating is bad across the country. That puts conservatives in the negative country-wide; not a good sign for other state elections for congress.

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A majority of Americans think it is bad for the country that Republicans control the House of Representatives, and even more want House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to be replaced by another Republican, according to a CNN/ORC International poll released Monday.

Fifty-four percent think it's bad that Republicans control the House, the poll found. That's up from 43 percent in December 2012, during the last fiscal standoff. The figure is the first time a majority thought Republican control was bad for the country since CNN started asking in December 2010. Sixty-three percent of respondents want Boehner replaced, but by another Republican, which would not change GOP control of the House.

The poll is yet another sign that the government shutdown has hurt the Republican party. An NBC/WSJ poll taken during the shutdown showed that 24 percent of people approved of the party, a record low. Gallup measured another record low for the GOP, with 28 percent approving. A poll released Sunday funded by Moveon.org and conducted by the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling showed that incumbent Republicans trailed generic Democrats in 15 of 25 competitive House districts.

Congress as a whole has a measly 12 percent approval rating, while 86 percent disapprove, according to the CNN/ORC International poll. President Barack Obama received a 44 percent approval rating, while 52 percent said they disapprove -- a number virtually unchanged since June. Forty-four percent are more confident that Obama can handle problems facing the U.S., versus 31 percent who said they think Republicans can. Twenty-one percent said they were confident in neither.


I don't see how national elections aren't going to be affected by the No Party House majority.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 05:34 pm

Deaths fell after Massachusetts healthcare overhaul: study
Reuters
By By Andrew M. Seaman 2 hours ago

By Andrew M. Seaman
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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - When Massachusetts blazed the trail of healthcare reform in 2006 by expanding coverage for the poor and requiring all residents to have health insurance, it may have done more than serve as a model for nationwide reform: it also seemed to save lives, according to a study released on Monday.

The findings, reported in the Annals of Internal Medicine, are the first to provide a detailed analysis of the effects of systematically expanding healthcare coverage. Increasing access to Medicaid, the government-run insurance program for the poor, and mandating that everyone have health insurance were the two centerpieces of Massachusetts' healthcare reform.

They are also central to President Barack Obama's 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and remain its most controversial elements. Half the states have refused to expand Medicaid under the law known as Obamacare, for instance, and Republican opponents of the law regularly rail against the individual mandate requiring that individuals buy insurance or pay a penalty.

The study's authors cautioned that their analysis does not prove that Massachusetts's healthcare overhaul caused the decline in deaths; all it can show is that the two are correlated.

Previous studies that examined whether expanding access to health insurance resulted in fewer deaths got mixed results.

The new study compared deaths among people aged 20 to 64 years old in Massachusetts counties before and after "Romneycare" (as the health insurance overhaul is known, since Republican politician Mitt Romney was governor when it became law) to counties in other states.

The years compared were 2001-2005 and 2007-2010.

For every 830 people who became insured as a result of Massachusetts' mandatory coverage and Medicaid expansion, they calculated, one fewer person died each year.

That represents "a 3 percent decline in the death rate in the first few years after implementation," lead author Dr Benjamin Sommers of Harvard School of Public Health in Boston told Reuters Health.

In particular, there were fewer deaths from cancer, heart disease and infections, all of which benefit from preventive and regular healthcare, said Sommers. He has served as a senior advisor to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the lead Obamacare agency, and continued to serve part-time in an advisory role in 2013-2014.

"The decline in the death rate of Massachusetts was focused in those areas where you would think reform would make the biggest difference," he said.

The drop in deaths was also larger in poorer communities that had a high number of uninsured residents before 2006.

Austin Frakt, a health economist with the Department of Veterans Affairs in Jamaica Plain, Massachusetts who was not involved in the new study but wrote an editorial accompanying it, called it "one of the most relevant studies pertaining to the Affordable Care Act."

Most such studies do show that health insurance has a positive effect on death rates and health, Frakt told Reuters Health: "Those findings are out there and the findings are really robust."

Sommers cautioned that the findings may not apply nationwide. For one thing, Massachusetts has an abundance of doctors and hospitals, many of whom accept the newly insured. Under Obamacare, people whose new insurance is not accepted by many healthcare providers might have coverage on paper but not easy access to healthcare.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 37 million people will gain health insurance by 2018 through the Affordable Care Act.

SOURCE: http://bit.ly/SQRXAa Annals of Internal Medicine, online May 5, 2014.

(Reporting by Andrew Seaman; Editing by Genevra Pittman, Sharon Begley and Chris Reese)
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 05:38 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:

Then I suspect it'll be time to start saying that workplace insurance is "subpar".


As it is in actuality. And then we can get what we needed in the first place, like the rest of the first world - Single Payer.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 5 May, 2014 05:52 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
That kind of study have already been done; it's been found that the people of Denmark are the most healthy and happiest on this planet - and they have universal health care.

Quote:
Health care is a civil right -- and a source of social support

Danish citizens expect and receive health care as a basic right. But what's more, they know how to effectively use their health systems. Danish people are in touch with their primary care physician an average of nearly seven times per year, according to a 2012 survey of family medicine in the country. And that means they have a single advocate who helps them navigate more complicated care.

"This gatekeeping system essentially is designed to support the principle that treatment ought to take place at the lowest effective care level along with the idea of continuity of care provided by a family doctor," wrote the authors of the family medicine survey.

By contrast, Americans seek medical care an average of fewer than four times per year and they don't just visit their general practitioner -- this figure includes emergency room visits, where many uninsured Americans must access doctors. This diversity of resources means that many Americans don't have continuity of care -- not a single medical professional advocating for them and putting together a comprehensive medical history.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2014 08:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
Proven here, too!

Study: RomneyCare Seems To Have Saved Lives, And Obamacare Could Too
Source: TPM

DYLAN SCOTT – MAY 6, 2014, 9:46 AM EDT

Health care reform in Massachusetts, which was enacted under then-Gov. Mitt Romney (R) and was the model for Obamacare, corresponded with a drop in the state's mortality rate, a study released Monday found.

The Los Angeles Times reported that study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, found the state's mortality rate fell by nearly 3 percent, compared to a control group, after it expanded insurance coverage.

According to the authors, that is the equivalent of one death prevented for every 830 adults who gained insurance.

"While this analysis cannot demonstrate causality, the results offer suggestive evidence that the Affordable Care Act ... may impact not only coverage and access but also mortality," the authors concluded. They did warn, however, that other factors might have contributed to the drop and cautioned against expecting the same results in other states.

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/romneycare-mortality-rate-study
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 6 May, 2014 08:45 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2014 11:49 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 10 May, 2014 09:44 am
@bobsal u1553115,
It reinforces that truth that greed is alive and well. They have lost all sense of fairness and equality. If they had shared those profits equally amongst all the workers, our economy would be much stronger. Greed wins.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 11 May, 2014 08:33 am
@cicerone imposter,
Greed has become part and parcel of 'success'.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 11 May, 2014 09:38 am
@bobsal u1553115,
It's a matter of how one interprets success. I find it as a failure of human ethics.
No one person needs that much riches to take away from the rest of society.

All workers of a company contribute to its success; they should all share in that success - more equally.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 10:30 am
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/140514-another-obamacare-myth-bites-the-dust.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 12:23 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Boehner has been known to cry easily, but he has no heart for women, children, homosexuals, seniors, the poor and middle class.

A complete fraud.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2014 06:37 pm
http://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/luckovich-edit-toon-april-21-2014-obamacare-gop.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 09:18 am
Woman with beach ball-sized tumor turned away from four hospitals for lack of insurance

By Travis Gettys
Friday, May 16, 2014 9:10 EDT
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Doris Lewis

A Georgia woman says four hospitals turned her away before one agreed to remove a massive and painful tumor.

Doris Lewis said she lost her insurance coverage when her husband died several years ago, reported WSB-TV.

But the 59-year-old said she never felt a sense of urgency to obtain new coverage until she developed the non-cancerous tumor, which has grown to the size of a beach ball in two months.

“It’s getting bigger every day,” Lewis said. “I can feel it on my body. My heart hurts a little bit.”

Lewis said she didn’t realize at first that she had developed the tumor, initially believing she was just gaining weight.

“Some of the guys looked at me and said, ‘You got a tumor in there that is so big — about to pop,’” Lewis said.

Doctors have told her the benign tumor is wrapped around her ovaries, but she has been unable to have it removed because she lacks insurance.

“I’ve been trying to get insurance for the longest but had no success,” Lewis said.

She called 911 after experiencing intense pain recently, and she said a doctor at Emory University Hospital said she would be able to have the tumor removed even if she could not pay for the surgery.

“He said, ‘You will see a doctor without money,’” Lewis said.

She’s scheduled to have surgery June 10, and doctors have told her they’ve never seen a tumor so large.

“It would feel great, now, if I could get it out today,” Lewis said. “Right now. It would be a blessing.”

Watch this video report posted online by WSB-TV:
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 18 May, 2014 07:39 am
Another red state just caved on Obamacare

Last edited Thu May 15, 2014, 10:01 PM - Edit history (1)
Another red state just caved on Obamacare

Updated by Adrianna McIntyre on May 15, 2014, 4:00 p.m. ET @onceuponA


Despite vocal opposition to Obamacare, Governor Mike Pence of Indiana just joined the ranks of conservative state officials willing to compromise with the federal government to expand health coverage for their states' poorest residents.


So, is Indiana signing up for Obamacare's Medicaid expansion?

Yep, but don't expect the governor to frame it that way. "From the very beginning of my tenure as governor, we've been saying no to the Affordable Care Act in Indiana," Pence said at today's announcement. "Medicaid is not a program we need to expand, it is a program we need to change."

Pence has proposed to expand an existing state program, the Healthy Indiana Plan, to extend affordable coverage to all Hoosiers below 138 percent of the federal poverty line. Indiana would pay for that expansion using Obamacare's Medicaid expansion funds.

Healthy Indiana is popular with its beneficiaries, but the program would have to change to become Obamacare-compliant. Right now, for example, it imposes annual and lifetime dollar limits, doesn't cover maternity care, and requires monthly contributions from most enrollees. The Department of Health and Human Services made it clear that some of these rules were unacceptable if Indiana wanted federal funds for a full Medicaid expansion.

He's billing this move as an "alternative" to Medicaid expansion, because the state is seeking permission from the feds revamp the Healthy Indiana Plan. But Indiana's special expansion still needs to play by Obamacare's rules.

more...

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/15/5716350/indianas-expanding-medicaid-thats-a-big-deal

fyi, Ezra Klein's new site.
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