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It's enough to make you sick. . .

 
 
hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:01 pm
Which personal predjudices are you afraid of exposing?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:07 pm
I don't think I have any Hobitbob. But lets discuss my prejudices on another thread and stick with the thesis on this one okay?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:19 pm
<sigh>

Dunno what good this'll do, but whuthuhell.

Gentle Reminder
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pistoff
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:42 pm
Objective reporting?
Is there such a thing as pure objective reporting?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:52 pm
There used to be Pistoff. My college major was journalism and that was a LONG time ago. No matter how well a story was researched or how well written, our professors would give a flat F to any student who inserted any detectable bias into a straight news story. Ditto if we left out pertinent facts in order to create a particular impression.

That was the norm when writing straight news stories for a newspaper or broadcast. Only on special interest stories or stories that required special research or in which a bias was almost mandatory did we get a byline.

There was also a strict code of ethics to get it right, to verify, verify, and verify, and to not in any way slander or libel somebody. All those ethics are out the window now. Now it's write the story and maybe print a small retraction if it is wrong.

I'm from the old school and miss it terribly.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 03:53 pm
Which makes it all the more odd that you favour sites like National Review, Fox, Wash Times, NY POSt, Freeper, etc...
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:03 pm
The source is less important to me than the content hobitbob. Like I said earlier, I try to resist prejudices about people, ideologies, publications, etc. and look for the best truth I can find. And everybody gets it right some of the time.

There are certain writers that I trust implicitly to have done their homework and have good judgment re the results of their research. Some of these are featured in the very publications you named. The same publications sometimes feature writers I wouldn't trust to get it right on a bet.

I feel the same way about the BCC, NY Times, Washington Post and other publications favored by the left. They have some good stuff sometimes too, and sometimes I just can't buy their slant on something.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:04 pm
The particular writer quoted to start this thread writes for a mainstream Florida newspaper by the way.
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Deecups36
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:09 pm
About 98% of what I hear on FOX News makes me sick.

The rightwing, partisan propaganda efforts and the braindead hosts (especially those 3 bozos in the morning) is enough to make me hurl.

Which is why I don't watch FOX News.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:11 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
The particular writer quoted to start this thread writes for a mainstream Florida newspaper by the way.

Denver has two dailies. One, the Rocky Mountain News leans right, the other the Denver Post leans left. Just becasue your editorial writer works for a local daily means nothing.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:15 pm
Then debate him. Is he wrong that terrorists intentionally deflect reporters to make sure they are constantly reporting bad news? Is he wrong that some are so biased and prejudiced they will intentionally turn the focus to present something or somebody in the worst possible light?

If he is correct, is it just possible that we aren't getting the whole story out of Iraq?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 04:55 pm
The thesis of the thread is how some try to drown out the message of another or change the subject to be sure the message is not expressed or they deflect attention so that the message won't be seen. The further this thread goes, the more credible the writer's thesis is. Smile
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Individual
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:27 pm
I have always felt exactly the same way as the author. But is it possible to get rid of biases? Even if the article was written by a shallow, dispassionate machine, the very order of sentences will evoke some sort of an emotional slant to the piece.

As for terrorists intentionally deflecting news reports, what could they possibly gain from that kind of scenario?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:49 pm
From what I get from the article, they hoped to keep Americans focused on the damage they were doing and how badly the war is going for the coalition rather than hear a military briefing that might indicate it wasn't so bad.
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Individual
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:54 pm
Ah, is CNN broadcast in Iraq?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:59 pm
Yes it is.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:59 pm
Yes it is.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 05:59 pm
Yes it is.
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Individual
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 06:06 pm
Hey, once was enough...

Okay, you've made you're point--now stop it!

Do I have to reach back there to stop you myself!? I'll do it! God help me I'll do it!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 29 Apr, 2004 06:12 pm
Holy cow how did that happen?
So sorry....
Yes ma'am/sir
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