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Blown up over the ocean? sunk to the bottom of the ocean? stollen or hijacked?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2014 09:56 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Killing Children is the All American Way

by Finian Cunningham / December 22nd, 2012

Madeleine Albright, the American ambassador the United Nations, was asked on nationwide television in 1996 if the death of half a million Iraqi children from US war and sanctions on that country was a price worth paying. Albright replied: “This is a very hard choice, but the price – we think is worth it.

That was before the so-called Second Persian Gulf War that began in 2003 with American air force “shock and awe”, followed by nearly nine years of illegal military occupation – an occupation that included the use of nuclear munitions and white phosphorus on the civilian populations in Fallujah and elsewhere, and involved countless massacres of families and children by US helicopter gunships and troopers.

Since Albright’s infamous admission, the death toll of Iraqi children from American military crimes can be safely assumed to run into multiples of what she candidly thought was a price worth paying more than 16 years ago.

Earlier this week when President Barack Obama was offering condolences to the families of the 20 children shot dead in an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, he said: “Whatever portion of sadness that can share with you to ease your heavy load, we will gladly bear it. Newtown, you are not alone.”

Indeed, Newtown is not alone. Children are slaughtered every week by Americans all over the world on the watch of Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama and his White House predecessors.

One study by James Lucas in 2007 put the death toll of civilians from American wars and sponsored conflicts in 37 countries since the Second World War at up to 30 million lives. The proportion of that figure corresponding to child deaths is not known but if the casualty rate of Iraq is anything to go by, we can estimate that the number of children killed by American militarism and covert wars since WWII is easily in the order of 20 million – that is, a million times the carnage last week in Connecticut.

The countries where these American-inflicted deaths occurred include: Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Angola, Congo, Afghanistan, Pakistan, El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua. They also include Iran during the American-backed Iraq war of 1980-88. Every continent on Earth has felt the American hand of death.

But note the figure of 20 million child deaths from American militarism is bound to be a serious underestimate of the actual total. In the last five years, the world has seen an escalation of child mortality from the carcinogenic legacy of depleted uranium and suspected use of other nuclear weapons in Iraq. The above figures do not include the latest killings from American assassination drones in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and other suspected war theatres, such as Mali in West Africa. Nor do the figures include overt and covert American military action in Libya last year and currently in Syria – nor the ongoing imposition of crippling sanctions against Iran where an untold number of sick children are dying from lack of medicines due to Washington’s import blockade.

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http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/killing-children-is-the-all-american-way/
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 08:57 am
Quote:
Article quote: Every continent on Earth has felt the American hand of death.

So what? If they ask for it they get it..Smile
(Geronimo/ Hitler/ Mussolini/Jap Empire/ Nth Koreans/ Vietcong/ Saddam/ Bin Laden/ Taliban etc)
God bless America!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/eagleA.png
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 09:01 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Your ignorance runs deep, Romeo fabulously wrong.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 09:05 am
Putin's shaping up to have his ass kicked too, he said the other day- "Russia is the only country capable of reducing America to nuclear ash"

Hey Vlad, remember that works the other way too..Wink
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 09:09 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
And your sorry ass sits smack in the middle, Romeo fabulously amoral.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 01:29 pm
@JTT,
Nah mate, when the USA and USSR nuke each other, their missiles will fly over the north pole missing Britain and Europe by a zillion miles..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/USA-USSR-pole_zpscb35fe41.jpg~original
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 01:33 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
You really are an empty headed dolt, Romeo always fabulously wrong. You think there are no missiles pointing at you USA lapdogs.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 01:59 pm
@JTT,
The prime target for Russki missiles would be the American homeland to deliver a knockout blow.
Anyway Putin's all talk, no world leader is going to start a nuke war because it means they're going to get nuked in return and both countries will end up as radioactive ash, it's the so-called MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) scenario.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 02:19 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Exactly! Which is why Iran needs nukes to make the USA and Israel shape up.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 02:27 pm
@JTT,
Obama sent Kerry to give Iran the go-ahead to keep building nuke reactors and I'm still trying to figger out why.
Naturally Israel are appalled by the decision
contrex
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 03:19 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Naturally Israel are appalled by the decision


They can dish it out, but they can't take it.

JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 03:41 pm
@contrex,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Naturally Israel are appalled by the decision
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A sighting of the BrE plural use.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 03:42 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Israel is as much of a rogue nation as the USA.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 04:17 pm
There's plenty of discussions about international politics. Wondering how one about a missing Boeing somehow went that direction. Unless there's some theory that the thing was sunk by a SAM, this thread's moved a LONG way off topic.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 05:53 pm
@Wilso,
It may have started back on page 5 when Baldimo, in a typical American type propagandist knee jerk reaction sought to blame it on Iranian terrorists.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 10:54 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Exactly! Which is why Iran needs nukes to make the USA and Israel shape up.

Your suggestion that Israel is misbehaving is just more anti-Semitism.

Your idea of allowing rogue nations to develop illegal weapons would kick off a global arms race that could result in the deaths of billions of people.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 10:54 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Obama sent Kerry to give Iran the go-ahead to keep building nuke reactors and I'm still trying to figger out why.

Keep building nuke reactors???

Do you mean "continue to enrich uranium at low levels"?

The reason why we will agree to that is because there is low weapons potential so long as there are thorough IAEA inspections. And our deal will mandate that such IAEA inspections occur.

Having IAEA inspectors crawling all over the place will set back Iran's weapons program far more than any bombing campaign could.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 22 Mar, 2014 10:55 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
They can dish it out, but they can't take it.

Spare us the anti-Semitism.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2014 08:55 am
@oralloy,
I didn't say Israel was misbehaving, Oralboy. I said Israel is a rogue nation supported by the greatest rogue nation on the planet, the USA.

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Hamas Shouldn’t Fire Rockets … But Israel Has Violated HUNDREDS of UN Resolutions
Posted on November 20, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog
Hamas Firing Rockets Is Unforgivable … But Israel Has Done MUCH Worse


We condemn Hamas for firing rockets into Israel. We believe that targeting civilians is unconscionable and illegal under international law.

But by any objective measure, Israel has broken the law much more than Hamas. Haaretz noted in 2002:

Israel holds the record for ignoring United Nations Security Council resolutions, according to a study by San Francisco University political science professor Steven Zunes.

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[Zunes] systematically went through all the states given instructions by the security council to find out how common a phenomenon it was. His results were somewhat surprising: “Some of the countries are considered and are known to be friendly to the U.S.,” he told Ha’aretz yesterday. “In the vast majority of cases I examined, the governments violating UN Security Council resolutions are countries that receive significant military, diplomatic and financial aid from the U.S.”

Israel leads the list. Since 1968, Israel has violated 32 resolutions that included condemnation or criticism of the governments’ policies and actions. Turkey is in second place, with 24 violations since 1974, and Morocco is third with 17 resolutions it ignored.

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Zunes specifically avoided counting resolutions that are vague or unclear so that governments could claim different interpretations to the meaning of the resolutions. Thus, the famous UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 are not included in his study. He also did not count resolutions that only included condemnations. Instead, he focused on those that included specific calls for changes in the subject governments’ policies.

The resolutions Israel violated were either about its annexation of East Jerusalem or settlements in the territories. Israel also ignored UN Security Council resolutions that called for Israel to cease using harsh measures against the Palestinian population and to cease expelling Palestinians.

Pulitzer prize winning journalist Chris Hedges points out that Israel has broken nearly a hundred UN Security Council resolutions regarding Gaza alone:

The continued presence of Israeli occupation forces defies nearly a hundred U.N. Security Council resolutions calling for them to withdraw. The Israeli blockade of Gaza, established in June 2007, is a brutal form of collective punishment that violates Article 33 of the Fourth 1949 Geneva Convention, which set up rules for the “Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.”


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/israel-has-violated-hundreds-of-un-resolutions.html
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2014 01:16 pm
The Malaysians are now backtracking on the claim that the turn the aircraft made was pre-programmed into the navigation system. If the turn was not pre-programmed then it would lend a lot more credence to the idea that the turn was a reaction to an event and not premeditated (of key importance). See below.
Quote:
No evidence turn was preprogrammed, Malaysia says
Malaysian officials, in a written update Sunday on the search, cast doubt on the theory that someone, perhaps a pilot, preprogrammed the aircraft to make an unexpected left turn during the flight.
"The last ACARS transmission, sent at 1:07 a.m., showed nothing unusual. The 1:07 a.m. transmission showed a normal routing all the way to Beijing," it read.
The Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System measures thousands of data points and sends the information via satellite to the airline, the engine manufacturer and other authorized parties, according to CNN aviation and airline correspondent Richard Quest.
Had the plane been preprogrammed to change course, the ACARS system should have reported it during its last communication at 1:07. The ACARS is supposed to report new information every 30 minutes, but it was silent at 1:37.
"It is important because it is more consistent (with an emergency). In other words, if the pilots had put in this waypoint that they were going to turn to and that they knew in advance of their last communication that they were going to turn, then everyone was (saying) that this had to be a premeditated act," said Mary Schiavo, a CNN aviation analyst and a former inspector general of the U.S. Department of Transportation. "Now if this information is correct, and it was not premeditated, then it does fit very closely with the scenario that, whatever happened, happened suddenly and they turned perhaps to go back to an emergency airport."


I'm not surprised that we're seeing retractions in some of the information from before. I also predict that the claim that the airplane was following waypoints well after it passed over the 13000ft airstrip, are completely bogus. I've heard no support for that claim yet, and it's a clincher IF it happened.
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