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Native English Speakers: can you get the correct meaning of the word "fare" at first sight?

 
 
Reply Wed 12 Mar, 2014 11:12 pm

Context:

No savings were made in the canteen, where the fare was often poor and expensive.

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I have had to check out my dictionaries and got the meaning of it: food and drink.
And you? Has your intuitive reaction led you unmistakably to the correct result?
 
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 12 Mar, 2014 11:27 pm
@oristarA,
This looks like an older text, what with the use of the word "canteen," maybe the Brits still use it, but within the context the word "fare" isn't unusual. It's still used contemporarily.
knaivete
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 12:45 am
@oristarA,
Yes oristarA natives immediately perceive the meaning of fare in such a context.

InfraBlue, the book was written in 2010 :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dik%C3%B6tter

Quote:
Frank Dikötter (/diːˈkʌtər/) is a Dutch historian who specialises in modern China. He is best known as the author of Mao's Great Famine, which won the 2011 Samuel Johnson Prize.[2] Dikötter is chair professor of humanities at the University of Hong Kong, where he teaches courses on both Mao Zedong and the Great Chinese Famine,[3] and formerly a professor of the modern history of China from the School of Oriental and African Studies at the University of London.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 03:05 am
Yes. Understand it immediately.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 03:11 am
The responses here make poor fare for the linguistically hungry.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 03:34 am
@InfraBlue,
We still use canteen, it's a kitchen/dining area in a work setting. Also if talking food and drink, we tend to use fayre, especially in pubs that sell food.
Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 13 Mar, 2014 03:43 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

The responses here make poor fare for the linguistically hungry.


Understood that too
knaivete
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 01:50 am
@Wilso,
Wilso that capcha deserves a gong.

What you may not know is that a little bird told me that someone was sulking as a result of being totally wrong on another thread.

Inadvertently adding much to my amusement here and there.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 02:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
we tend to use fayre, especially in pubs that sell food.


Oh for Chrissakes, don't say that. One of my pet hates, is that.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 15 Mar, 2014 02:39 pm
@McTag,
You may hate it, but it's still true. We don't tend to use fayre or fare in everyday conversation, nor victuals for that matter, but Ye Olde Taverns do.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 12:15 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You may hate it, but it's still true. We don't tend to use fayre or fare in everyday conversation, nor victuals for that matter, but Ye Olde Taverns do.


For me, two questions:
1) Why would McTag's pet hate the word fayre or whatsoever?
2) What does Ye Olde Taverns mean? You OLd Taverns in Scottish?
Wilso
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 01:02 am
@oristarA,
Ye Olde tavern is a pub or public bar (where people meet to drink, eat and talk etc)
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 01:08 am
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

Ye Olde tavern is a pub or public bar (where people meet to drink, eat and talk etc)


Does Ye Olde mean you old?
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 01:51 am
@oristarA,

No, it means The Old....

http://www.pubs.com/main_site/pub_details.php?pub_id=154

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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 01:58 am
@izzythepush,

Quote:
You may hate it, but it's still true. We don't tend to use fayre or fare in everyday conversation,


You see this lame, stupid and false word "fayre" everywhere. Its use is worse (in my humble opinion) than sticking false polystyrene oak beams on the facades of suburban semis. It is twee, it is sickening. It is trying to pretend things are different than they are. It is advertising-speak. It is trying to build a bridge to Merrie England, the time that never was.
Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 02:15 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
two questions:
1) Why would McTag's pet hate the word fayre or whatsoever?
2) What does Ye Olde Taverns mean? You OLd Taverns in Scottish?


"olde" is:
pseudo-archaic mock-antique variant of old, 1927
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=olde

"fayre" is:
fair a pseudo-archaic spelling of fare
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fayre

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 07:32 am
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

For me, two questions:
1) Why would McTag's pet hate the word fayre or whatsoever?
2) What does Ye Olde Taverns mean? You OLd Taverns in Scottish?


I can't say why Taggers has a particular pet hate, that's the thing about pet hates, they're individual.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mcZCCOntY_A/TozgEBx46xI/AAAAAAAAABw/42OMf6OcZQE/s1600/GOOOOOOOD.jpg

This is an Anglo Saxon thorn. It's pronounced TH. Sometimes it was represented as Y. So sometimes The was shown as Ye, it was still pronounced as The.

That was a long time ago, and now Ye is never used except for signs which try to show some form of heritage, usually associated with food and drink.
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/2d/f2/b9/ye-old-cheshire-cheese.jpg
http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Bayley-Co_-Ye-Olde-Civet-Cat.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/03/4f/15/50/ye-olde-george-inn.jpg
http://www.visitlincoln.com/media/photography/food-drink/ye-olde-crowne-web.jpg

It's a tourist trap, people like drinking in pubs that can date back to the middle ages, and feel they're eating traditional fayre that Chaucer would have enjoyed, mostly it's nonsense. Chaucer never sampled a potato, and most Olde pubs serve chips, mash and roast potatoes.

Sometimes its use is a bit tongue in cheek.
 http://apt46.net/wp-content/upload/ye-olde-blog_6914.jpg
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 09:24 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Quote:
You may hate it, but it's still true. We don't tend to use fayre or fare in everyday conversation,


You see this lame, stupid and false word "fayre" everywhere. Its use is worse (in my humble opinion) than sticking false polystyrene oak beams on the facades of suburban semis. It is twee, it is sickening. It is trying to pretend things are different than they are. It is advertising-speak. It is trying to build a bridge to Merrie England, the time that never was.


Failed to understand the three parts in red?
Who would like to explain?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:06 am
@oristarA,
Semi = Semi detached house.
http://www.instituteforsustainability.co.uk/uploads/Image/Semi-detached%20houses%20-%20Web%20pic.jpg

False polystyrene oak beams are a way of making a 19th/20th/21st Century building look a lot older. It's ersatz. Google Mock Tudor.

Advertising speak, a type of patois used to generate custom, again fairly ersatz.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2014 11:22 am
@izzythepush,
Thanks.
Are False polystyrene oak beams sticking, as McTag says?
 

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