beginning level learner

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-John is a beginning level (this is used as an adjective)learner of English who...

Is it natural English? Are there alternatives of expressing the meaning?

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@WBYeats,

It's possible, WB.

-John is a beginning level (this is used as an adjective)learner of English who...

at beginner level
a beginner
just starting out in ...
just beginning ...

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@WBYeats,

John is a novice
in his study of English.

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a fledgling

wet behind the ears (not neutral as your examples)

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@WBYeats,

WB it ain't colo--it's unnatural--but here's a technicality: To make compound adjective one uses a hyphen in "beginning-level learner"

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

WB it ain't colo--it's unnatural--but here's a technicality:
To make compound adjective one uses a hyphen in "beginning-level learner"

What the hell is: "colo" ?

R u trying to be annoying ??????????

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Colloquial

What can I say Dave after I've said I'm sorry

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@dalehileman,

Dale: but here's a technicality: To make compound adjective one uses a hyphen in "beginning-level learner"

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Technically speaking, Dale, that's another old piece of bullshit, aka a prescription, a false rule.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Om: What the hell is: "colo" ?
R u trying to be annoying?

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That's a hoot coming from you, Sig.

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@JTT,

n "beginning-level learner"

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Technically speaking, Dale, that's another old piece of bullshit, aka a prescription, a false rule.

Beg to differ JTT. I've encountered many, many instances where meaning would have been clarified with the use of the hyphen. For instance

http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/hyphens_in_compound_adjectives.htm

a heavy metal detector is not necessarily the same kind of object as a heavy-metal detector

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

Colloquial

What can I say Dave after I've said I'm sorry

What u can say
is the full meaning of what u want us to understand.

Is that asking too much ??????

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@dalehileman,

dalehileman wrote:

n "beginning-level learner"

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Technically speaking, Dale, that's another old piece of bullshit,
aka a prescription, a false rule.
Beg to differ JTT. I've encountered many, many instances where meaning would have been
clarified with the use of the hyphen. For instance

http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/hyphens_in_compound_adjectives.htm

a heavy metal detector is not necessarily the same kind of object as a heavy-metal detector

OF COURSE u are correct, Dale,
but u are conversing with a hopeless, sick depraved mind
that has repudiated reasoning. I suggest the Ignore button, if I may offer an opinion.

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Does A2K have a wood chipper ?

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@dalehileman,

Language doesn't exist in a vacuum, Dale. You've picked a website that hopes to cash in by copying and repeating old canards.

Very simply, the contex in real life situations gives all the meaning necessary.

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If you think that nonetheless an answer should be stipulated, then go ahead and make up a stipulation. What The Cambridge Grammar is telling you is that you won't have any basis for it. You might just as well have stipulated the opposite. Educated usage will not always match your stipulation (thus showing it to be a good one), and it won't always fail to match.

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2153

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@OmSigDAVID,

Thank you Dave

While I expect to be mercilessly attacked I'd add another technical detail, and that's where the apostrophe is unnecessary if the adjective ends in "ly"

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@dalehileman,

Thank u, Dale. I did not see an apostrophe.

If a word ended in "ly" I 'd be likely to suspect
that it was more probably an adverb than an adjective.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Thank u, Dale. I did not see an apostrophe.

Of course Dave, meant hyphen

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….."ly" I 'd be likely to suspect……adverb than an adjective.

Yea Dave, just wait til you're 83 on the vergeofit

You're right tho if you're suggesting one reread one's post before posting

Incidentally would you describe JTT as nihilist

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@dalehileman,

Dale: While I expect to be mercilessly attacked I'd add another technical detail, and
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Dale, you were not mercilessly attacked, at least by me. If you repeat nonsense you have to expect to be called on it. Did you read what the CGEL said as regards these hyphens?

"What The Cambridge Grammar is telling you is that you won't have any basis for it." "It" being what you mistakenly advanced as a rule of the English language.

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@JTT,

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Did you read what the CGEL said

No JTT but nifty if you were to repost the pertinent link

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@dalehileman,

The link is right in my post that answered you, Dale.

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