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My God! It's Full of Stars!

 
 
RushPoint
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 08:56 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
no, I would be referring to religion long before WW2, or even before the invent of the "camera" for that matter!
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 09:14 pm
Quote:
Brandon said: Speculation followed by more speculation, with no reproducible proof at any point is a characteristic of children and simpletons.

That's what the Spanish Inquisition said to scientists and astronomers even though some speculations couldn't be proved at that time!
Luckily they ignored the Inquisition and carried on speculating among themselves in private to fearlessly advance scientific knowledge..Smile
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/ExIS/spanish_inquisition.jpg
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 09:44 pm
Hope is one thing, but regarding it on an equal basis with verifiable science is the act of someone who just doesn't get it. Decades of testing have produced only negative results. Even if by some miracle, useful telepathy is somehow discovered, it's dumb at present to put it on an equal footing with science that has at least a speck of laboratory confirmation. There are some things we can't do now that are at least plausible extensions of verified theory. This, on the other hand, is just speculation, based on nothing but anecdotes, that has failed consistently in testing for a long, long time.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 09:51 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Nobody did any of it, boy. Get a clue.
RushPoint
 
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Reply Sun 23 Feb, 2014 10:17 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
alien space craft with lasers shooting from them is not real, its science fiction, so I guess this passage or quote from the bible must mean something completely different then right? imagine that !!!
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RushPoint
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 08:58 am
@rosborne979,
actually they did and for many years, studies done in regards to telepathy in todays day in age are conducted in psychiatric facilities!
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 09:00 am
@RushPoint,
RushPoint wrote:

actually they did and for many years, studies done in regards to telepathy in todays day in age are conducted in psychiatric facilities!

I was responding to Romeo's post, not the one about telepathy. Click on the link above the comment to take you back to the post being replied to.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 09:58 am
@RushPoint,
You must have chosen to ignore my posts, or maybe you ignore me altogether. I posted about the Rhine Institute, once affiliated with Duke University. In almost 80 years of research, they did not come up with an iota of evidence for telepathy. The idea is so thoroughly discredited that modern psychological laboratories don't bother with telepathy at all, and universities no longer sponsor parapsychology departments. You might come up with an example or two to contradict that, but those will be the exceptions that prove the rule.
RushPoint
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 11:22 am
@Setanta,
I agree with your comment whole heartedly, I responded to the commenters claims of psychopathic abilities in much the same fashion. it's up there with alien abductions and fairy tales! I am a student of physics so I look for the math, "no math? it's a myth!"
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 11:45 am
By the way, i like the thread title.



(I saw that film in the theater in 1968--it was pretty radical stuff in those days.)
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 11:56 am
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Rushpoint said: I am a student of physics so I look for the math, "no math? it's a myth!"

Good for you mate, I was a physicist too, I passed the College of Preceptors General Science and Advanced Science exams in 1963..Smile
My field was physics because chemisty was too smelly, and biology was too stomach-churning.
Incidentally about maths, here are a couple of interesting quotes-

"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming"- Paul Davies (British astrophysicist), The Cosmic Blueprint: New Discoveries in Nature's Creative Ability To Order the Universe. New York: Simon and Schuster, p.203.

"Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe."- Galileo
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 12:22 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
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"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on….....The impression of design is overwhelming"- Paul Davies (British astrophysicist),
I'm afraid at risk of derision I have to agree there's an insistent intuitional notion that the Universe is"tuned," that is to say things have ben "set up" specifically to allow evolution of the humanoid, without whom the entire exercise seems a fruitless exercise in the inevitable process of the inevitable


That there's something more to it than the simple bounce or exchange of energy between one particle and the next adjacent. Limited as we are by the requirements of a language and our unwillingness to express the abstract we don't know what that "more" is. Based on the notion that the "supernatural" is impossible and assuming the impossible can't be done, I'm betting it to be a perfectly natural phenom. As we begin to realize its existence, dancing around it if you will, some will label It as "God"

At the same time however the cynic will insist its abstract status makes the term inapplicable, and they will be perfectly rational in doing so; since after all, the entire exercise is only semantical
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 12:43 pm
It wasn't me who introduced the maths thing into this stunning thread, but seeing as the ball is still bouncing around I may as well grab it and run with it..Smile-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/dna-god.jpg

Jesus said "And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 10:30)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/pyle-hair_zpsd874a214.jpg~original
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RushPoint
 
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Reply Mon 24 Feb, 2014 08:00 pm
@Setanta,
was a great movie at the time, you mean 1978 right?
RushPoint
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2014 07:49 am
@dalehileman,
The letters A, G, C, and T represent the four nitrogen bases of which make up the different proteins responsible for the unique characteristics found in each and every one of us, these letters are a man made interpretation of what we believe make up the DNA helix, this is not GOD's math but man's effort to understand these complexities, we don't even know for sure if it is actually 100% accurate or complete, but evidence would suggest it's a good start. The image we know of a double helix is also but a guess.

binary code or the one's and zero's represent off and on routines, 1 being "on" and 0 being off, the "and" or "or" sequences are that of combinations of "off and on" values as is the same with "yes or no" or negative and positive you only get 2 choices in binary duality. In binary language the zero is not represented as a value and is null, only the 1 represents a value or positive.

the two examples "DNA and Binary code" have absolutely no correlation or resemblance between one another, relating the two is like saying that the rings in a tree are in direct correlation to the RPM's in a cars engine! they are both a count of progression or a number but that's where the similarities stop!
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2014 09:52 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
I think I might
imagination can be entertaining.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2014 10:01 am
@RushPoint,
No, i mean 1968--the year the motion picture was released. With fewer than 70 special effects, it was a better movie than Star Wars, which had hundreds, but no plot worth the name.
RushPoint
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2014 02:54 pm
@Setanta,
ok I see now, had to Google it lol, was released in '68, defiantly an awesome movie for the time

*remember space 1999? the made for TV series where the weapon of choice looked like a staple gun! was a 70's program I think.
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RushPoint
 
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Reply Tue 25 Feb, 2014 04:07 pm
@Setanta,
did you hear of the massive gas/dust cloud about to get sucked up by the black hole (Sagittarius A*) at the center of our galaxy?
RushPoint
 
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Reply Wed 26 Feb, 2014 12:20 pm
@RushPoint,
26000 light years away, it has taken the light from this event 26000 years to reach us, astronomers figure one of two things will be witnessed as this happens, first is that radio waves will increase dramatically, possibly thousands of times more so than normally emitted by this black hole and the second thing is that as this cloud begins to be sucked up it will show more evidence by adding more contrast to the existence of the center of our galaxy, Sagittarius A and the black hole within it.
 

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