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When do we cease to exist?

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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 01:48 pm
@Germlat,
Whether the Bible is correct in establishing the identity of the first humans is a different argument.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 01:55 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Who cares whether they had real estate title or not?
Presumably, the title holder does.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 01:56 pm
@neologist,
Within 5 minutes of us English landing in the New World the savages were thieving from us, scalping us and killing us but we said "Enough!" and were soon running the show!
That's why yanks today speak english and are not still living in wigwams, painting their faces, doing wardances and making silly whooping noises..Smile
It's all in books like this one on my bookshelf-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/books5b_zpsfd1f17f5.jpg~original
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 01:59 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Within 5 minutes of us English landing in the New World
the savages were thieving from us, scalping us and killing us
the NERVE of some people
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thus
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 02:06 pm
@Germlat,
what is your defintion of we?
depends on that?
what is the self?
is their a self?
or an i or form of person?
is it our body our mind etc etc..
Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 02:28 pm
@neologist,
I guess we differ in the way we accept information. So I'm confused...I'm not sure how you can know if Adam existed at all ,and yet you provide a precise date of when he lived. What about the human skeletal remains that exist which are older then 5,000 years?
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Germlat
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 02:43 pm
@thus,
My definition of "we" depends on the context of the matter being discussed. I think there is a public self, a self-perceived self in terms of mind, a physical self...I think human individuality is a result of interlinked processes/nature and nurture. I'm not sure I understand your other questions.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 15 Aug, 2014 03:31 pm
@Germlat,
Quote:
we
[wee] Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
plural pronoun, possessive our or ours, objective us.
1. nominative plural of I.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others):
We have two children. In this block we all own our own houses.
3. (used to denote people in general):
the marvels of science that we take for granted.
4. (used to indicate a particular profession, nationality, political party, etc., that includes the speaker or writer):
We in the medical profession have moral responsibilities.
5. Also called the royal we. (used by a sovereign, or by other high officials and dignitaries, in place of I in formal speech):
We do not wear this crown without humility.
6. Also called the editorial we. (used by editors, writers, etc., to avoid the too personal or specific I or to represent a collective viewpoint):
As for this column, we will have nothing to do with shady politicians.
7. you (used familiarly, often with mild condescension or sarcasm, as in addressing a child, a patient, etc.):
We know that's naughty, don't we? It's time we took our medicine.
Germlat
 
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2014 11:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
That should definitely cover it....Thus...may still have questions.
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MWal
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 05:23 pm
We don't, even after we die. We reincarnate until our spirits are strong enough to conquer our minds and ascend into Heaven mind body and spirit.
Germlat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 05:32 pm
@MWal,
I would love to believe that...if I only could. Ever watch the "Lighting Crashes " video? It's awesome.
MWal
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 06:45 pm
@Germlat,
What else happens but we turn back into matter a conciousnes mine to be born again.
Germlat
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 06:57 pm
@MWal,
Well...did you watch the video?!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 19 Aug, 2014 10:53 pm
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:
I would love to believe that...if I only could.
U have the testimony of people who
have left their human bodies (like me) and returned,
some of whom had death experiences.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 04:05 am
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

We don't, even after we die. We reincarnate until our spirits are strong enough to conquer our minds and ascend into Heaven mind body and spirit.


Interesting blind guess, MWal.

Why do you present it as though it is more than a blind guess?
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Germlat
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 06:14 am
@OmSigDAVID,
The thing with testimonies is that they are personal perceptions. People can convince themselves of just about anything. I knew a girl who managed to convince herself she wasn't pregnant ....until the baby was born and provided her with irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 09:30 am
@Germlat,
Germlat wrote:
The thing with testimonies is that they are personal perceptions.
People can convince themselves of just about anything.
Perceptions can spring upon u.
I hope that u have an out-of-body-experience, in good health.
I think that u 'll like it, and then u 'll know that conscious life
can exist separate from your human vehicle. Good luck.





David
George
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 09:45 am
@OmSigDAVID,
What made you sure you were really out-of-body as opposed to your mind
playing tricks on you?

This isn't to start an argument. I'm genuinely curious.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 09:52 am
@Germlat,
That's only one type of 'mind over matter.' The majority of humans believe in one god or another - even when there's no evidence of one (or more). They believe their god created the heavens and the earth, but that's based on 'faith' only; it's not scientific.

Yes, out of body experience is the mind playing tricks on the individual who believes they saw their own body laying on their death bed.

Humans ability to 'see' things that doesn't exist is normal, but not factual.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2014 10:01 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:


Humans ability to 'see' things that doesn't exist is normal, but not factual.


Another number agreement mistake, ci.

How can you keep making these mistakes...and still claim that you are "above average" in English.
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