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Phillip Seymour Hoffman, RIP

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 08:10 pm
@jcboy,
remember Romeo is a "gamer". Those guys live in basements and are covered in zits
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 08:27 pm
Never heard of the dude, but he died with a needle in his arm shooting up, so I doubt he was all that great of a guy. Heroin is a really nasty drug, it is scary how big it is back.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 3 Feb, 2014 11:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Never heard of the dude, but he died with a needle in his arm shooting up, so I doubt he was all that great of a guy.

One of the best actors of our generation, and you've never heard his name? Are you ******* kidding?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 05:45 am
@Ticomaya,
until I saw Capote, I never heard of him. He kind of just poofed into my personal pantheon of great actors .
I missed his appearance in Lebowski cause he was just another bit player in a Jeff Bridges movie.

Im gonna stick with that as a pass for Hawkee. Otherwise itd be too sad to see how a restaurant could suck up all of ones free time.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:39 am
I'd think that most movie goers would be aware of Hoffman, both because of his prolific body of work, and because of his awards and award nominations (he received the Oscar for best actor, and had two other Oscar nominations for best supporting actor, as well as three Tony nominations for his Broadway roles).

He appeared in over 50 films, as well as his stage appearances both on and off Broadway.

This article mentions many of his more notable roles.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/movies/philip-seymour-hoffman-actor-dies-at-46.html
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 06:55 am
Moment of Zen - Philip Seymour Hoffman Tribute:
Philip Seymour Hoffman lays out the reasons for an actor always giving their best. (01:10)
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-3-2014/moment-of-zen---philip-seymour-hoffman-tribute
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Germlat
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 07:25 am
@hawkeye10,
I think it's sad ..He had been clean for 23 years and relapsed about 2 years ago. He left behind children and a partner. He destroyed his life over a momentary weakness that wound up being quicksand and swallowing him whole. He was a fabulous actor. I loved him in The Talented Mr. Ripley.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 4 Feb, 2014 11:20 pm
@Germlat,
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He destroyed his life over a momentary weakness that wound up being quicksand and swallowing him whole.
interesting use of the word "momentary" when he had 70 heroin bags in his place, plus coke and other drugs.....Somehow I dont think he was a dealer, he was setting in a good supply for extended use.
Germlat
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:06 am
@hawkeye10,
I meant that for an addict or alcoholic, it matters not how long they've been clean and sober. Seymour probably told himself two years ago( when he relapsed) that he'd only try it one more time. But he was unable to stop. He had been using heavily two years prior to his death.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 08:33 am
@Germlat,
I'm unclear as I thought he relapsed about 30 days ago. (I'm wrong or last year means in December 2013?) One article said that he checked into a clinic again 30 days ago?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/03/movies/philip-seymour-hoffman-actor-dies-at-46.html?_r=0
" Last year he checked into a rehabilitation program for about 10 days after a reliance on prescription pills resulted in his briefly turning again to heroin."
chai2
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:10 am
Let's not forget that he left behind 3 children, 2 of them very young.

I think my favorite role he played was as the nurse in Magnolia.
He was amazing as the priest in Doubt.
He was amazingly obnoxious as Freddie Miles in The Talented Mr Riply

and who could forget his parts in Boogie Nights and Scent of a Woman?

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Germlat
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:12 am
@Ragman,
According to TMZ, he fell off the wagon in 2012 when he started talking r/x pills. Also he was in rehab last May. I'm not sure how many periods of sobriety he had in the last two years. But, he was clean for 23 years and at some point he thought he could handle narcotics again.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:15 am
@Germlat,
Regardless of details of his relapse, a great talent was lost. And, more importantly, is the impact on his children. How tragic.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 09:24 am
@Ragman,
Information keeps coming out in drips and drabs. There was some reporting yesterday that he had been back to rehab, after years of sobriety. One report mentioned he withdrew $1200 from an ATM near his building. There wasn't any cash in the apartment, but reportedly there were several bags of heroin. I don't know how much of the reporting is accurate, the press doesn't seem to wait for verification, they hear something and spit it right back out.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:38 am
Like I said, I'd never heard of Hoffman, but now he's dead he's famous at last!
Same with the art world, great artists have to be dead or nutty (preferably both). For example van Gogh fits the bill nicely, his pallette was definitely short of a few colours but he's famous even though his paintings were crap..Smile
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:39 am
@farmerman,
I just read this morning that they didn't find fentanyl in the heroin he used.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 11:54 am
@ossobuco,
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Four People Arrested as Police Investigate Hoffman’s Death
By J. DAVID GOODMAN and EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS
FEB. 5, 2014

Four people were arrested in Lower Manhattan on Tuesday evening with more than 350 bags of heroin as part of the investigation into the death of the actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, the authorities said.

Narcotics investigators executed search warrants in three apartments in a building at 302 Mott Street on Tuesday evening, the police said. Three men and a woman were arrested, and the investigators recovered the bags of heroin inside the apartments.

Information stemming from the investigation into Mr. Hoffman’s death led the police to the building, a law enforcement official said. None of the people arrested have been charged with the sale of drugs and a firm connection to Mr. Hoffman has not been established, officials said.

Mr. Hoffman, widely considered one of the best actors of his generation, died on Sunday in an apparent heroin overdose.

Max Rosenblum, 22, and Juliana Luchkiw, 22, live together in Apt. 27 at 302 Mott Street. They are each charged with drug possession and criminal use of drug paraphernalia.

Robert Vineberg, 57, lives in Apt. 38, where the majority of the more than 350 bags of heroin were found, the law enforcement official said. He is also charged with drug possession and criminal use of drug paraphernalia.

Thomas Cushman, 48, who was in Apt. 21, was charged with drug possession.

When the arrests were made on Tuesday around 7 p.m., Mr. Vineberg was in the apartment with Mr. Cushman, the police said. The couple was in their apartment, the police said.

None of the four appeared to have a criminal history of drug sales, the police said, and two — Mr. Vineberg and Ms. Luchkiw — had no prior arrests.

Mr. Cushman, whose last known address was in Brooklyn, had been arrested three times in the past for minor offenses, though those arrests were sealed, the police said. Mr. Rosenblum was arrested in March 2010 for possession of a small amount of narcotics and selling alcohol without a license at an address on Suffolk Street in the Lower East Side described by the police as a bar or club; he had two other sealed arrests.

Mr. Hoffman was found dead on Sunday with a needle in his arm in a West Village apartment, about a mile from where the arrests took place. Near Mr. Hoffman’s body, the police found dozens of packages of heroin, some branded with the label “Ace of Spades” or with an ace of hearts.

The bags that were found during the arrests on Tuesday did not have those types of labels, the official said. The investigation was continuing, police officials said.

Earlier Tuesday, police officials said that the heroin found in Mr. Hoffman’s apartment did not contain fentanyl, a powerful additive that has been tied to 22 recent fatal overdoses in Pennsylvania. The city medical examiner has not yet determined the cause of death for the actor.

Preliminary tests of the heroin found “no traces of fentanyl,” said Stephen Davis, the department’s top spokesman, adding that investigators had taken a representative sample of the substances found in the apartment in reaching that conclusion.

An initial exam of Mr. Hoffman was completed Wednesday, the office of the chief medical examiner said, but a determination as to the cause of death had yet to be made pending toxicology tests. Results could take days.

As the investigation into the actor’s death continued, Mr. Hoffman’s family released a statement outlining plans for a private funeral service for “the family and close friends.”

The statement said that “plans were also underway for a memorial service later in the month also to be held in New York,” though no details were provided.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/nyregion/four-people-arrested-as-police-investigate-hoffmans-death.html?hp
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 12:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Heroin is a really nasty drug, it is scary how big it is back.

I agree.

I'm posting this entire article, and not just a link, because several people have complained of having only limited access to the NY Times.

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Hoffman’s Heroin Points to Surge in Grim Trade
By J. DAVID GOODMAN
FEB. 3, 2014

Detectives found dozens of small packages in the West Village apartment where Philip Seymour Hoffman, the actor, died on Sunday. Most were branded, some with purple letters spelling out Ace of Spades, others bearing the mark of an ace of hearts. At least five were empty, and in the trash.

Each of the packages, which can sell for as little as $6 on the street, offered a grim window into Mr. Hoffman’s personal struggle with a resurgent addiction that ultimately, the police said, proved fatal. And the names and logos reflect a fevered underground marketing effort in a city that is awash in cheap heroin.

Heroin seizures in New York State are up 67 percent over the last four years, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration said. Last year, the agency’s New York office seized 144 kilograms of heroin, nearly 20 percent of its seizures nationwide, valued at roughly $43 million. One recent raid, in the Bronx last week, netted 33 pounds of heroin and hundreds of thousands of branded bags, some stamped “N.F.L.,” a timely nod to the Super Bowl.

From 2010 to 2012, after several years of decline, heroin-related overdose deaths increased 84 percent in New York City to 382, according to the Health Department statistics. Staten Island, where prescription drug addiction has been especially virulent, has the city’s highest rate of heroin overdoses, though a connection has not been established.

Bags bearing different stamps turn up in raids of large-scale heroin mills around the city.

They are named for popular celebrities or luxury products, or the very thoroughfares along which the drugs travel: Lady Gaga. Gucci. I-95. They reflect an increasingly young and middle-class clientele, who often move from prescription pills to needles: Twilight. MySpace. And they often indicate little about the quality or purity of the product, which is diluted with baking soda or, in some cases, infant laxatives, officials said.

To be sure, there is variety, especially in potency and reliability. Recently, 22 people died in and around Pittsburgh after overdosing from a batch of heroin mixed with fentanyl, a powerful opiate usually found in patches given to cancer patients. Heroin containing fentanyl, which gives a more intense but potentially more dangerous high, has begun to appear in New York City, said Kati Cornell, a spokeswoman for Bridget G. Brennan, the special narcotics prosecutor for the city. An undercover officer bought fentanyl-laced heroin on Jan. 14 from a dealer in the Bronx, she said. The dealer did not warn of the mixture, which is not apparent to the user; subsequent testing revealed it. (The patches themselves had turned up in drug seizures in the city before, she said.)

Ultimately, users have no way to be sure what they’re buying. “There’s no F.D.A. approval; it’s made however they decide to make it that day,” Ms. Brennan said. The same shipment of heroin may be packaged under several different labels, she said. “At the big mills, we’ll seize 20 stamps. It’s all the same.”

Far from plaguing only big cities, heroin has emerged as a grave concern in places like Vermont, where last month the governor devoted his entire State of the State message to what he said was “a full-blown heroin crisis” there.

But almost as long as there has been heroin in the United States, New York City has been its hub. Certainly much has changed since the 1970s, when addicts flooded shooting galleries and flashy drug traffickers like Nicky Barnes, known as Mr. Untouchable, became household names. The drug is still smuggled into the country from faraway poppy fields, still cut from kilo-size quantities in hothouse operations secreted around the city, still diluted in coffee grinders and still sold to needy consumers.

Various brands, too, have been around for decades. “There always have been markings going back as far as Nicky Barnes,” said James J. Hunt, the acting head of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s New York office. “Now the difference is that the addicts you see a lot are young suburban kids starting on prescription drugs, and they graduate to heroin.”

The trade has become more organized, officials said, from the top to the bottom. Delivery services abound for those who can afford a dealer who arrives at the door with a grab bag of drugs. Highly organized mills have been found in middle-class city areas like Riverdale, in the Bronx, and Fort Lee, N.J., or, in one case, in a Midtown Manhattan apartment near the Lincoln Tunnel. Such locations draw less scrutiny from potential robbers, and often provide ready access to major roads for deliveries up and down the Eastern corridor.

Various brands, too, have been around for decades. “There always have been markings going back as far as Nicky Barnes,” said James J. Hunt, the acting head of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s New York office. “Now the difference is that the addicts you see a lot are young suburban kids starting on prescription drugs, and they graduate to heroin.”

The trade has become more organized, officials said, from the top to the bottom. Delivery services abound for those who can afford a dealer who arrives at the door with a grab bag of drugs. Highly organized mills have been found in middle-class city areas like Riverdale, in the Bronx, and Fort Lee, N.J., or, in one case, in a Midtown Manhattan apartment near the Lincoln Tunnel. Such locations draw less scrutiny from potential robbers, and often provide ready access to major roads for deliveries up and down the Eastern corridor.

“It’s like somebody setting up a big production factory in China and the product is going to go out through to the world,” Ms. Brennan said. “That’s how I look at these production mills that we’re seeing in New York. Some will stay here in the city, but it’s mostly intended for distribution.” (A $6 bag in the city could fetch as much as $30 or $40 in parts of New England, authorities have said.)

Some officials fear that efforts to drive down abuse of prescription medications could be contributing to rising heroin use in New York City, as it has in places like Maine.

“What we’re seeing, as pills become more difficult to access, is a shift to the black market and heroin,” said Dr. Andrew Kolodny, the chief medical officer at the Phoenix House Foundation, a drug-treatment center, and president of Physicians for Responsible Opioid Prescribing. “It’s not easy to get the opioid genie back into the bottle.”

It is a cycle that friends of Mr. Hoffman, who was 46, said may have recently taken hold in his life as well.

Last year, he checked into a rehabilitation program for about 10 days, a move that came after a reliance on prescription pills led to a return to heroin, after what he said had been a clean period spanning two decades.

The Police Department on Monday said detectives were working to track down the origin of the substances Mr. Hoffman used, though a police official conceded it could be difficult to determine. “Just because it’s a name brand doesn’t mean that anyone has an exclusive on that name,” the official said. “Ace of Spades; I would venture to say that someone else has used that name.”

The ace of hearts logo has appeared in at least one case in the city, the police said.

The Drug Enforcement Administration said it had seen “Ace of Spades” branding in a 2009 drug case on Long Island. It has been seen in photographs of heroin packages at least as far back as 2005.

Investigators will also test the paraphernalia found near Mr. Hoffman, as well as the syringe found in his left arm, to determine whether the mixture he consumed had been adulterated in any way, the official said. Results from those tests were expected sooner than the toxicology tests by the city medical examiner.

For law enforcement officials, Mr. Hoffman’s death was a stark reminder of the dangers inherent in a highly addictive drug that ravaged urban communities in the 1970s.

“People who study drug trends talk about generational amnesia,” said Ms. Brennan, the special narcotics prosecutor. “We’re now 40 years out from our last major heroin epidemic and I think people have lost their memory of that drug’s devastation.”

Indeed, she said, some of the most common heroin brands suggest as much: Grim Reaper; a skull and crossbones; D.O.A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/04/nyregion/hoffmans-heroin-points-to-surge-in-grim-trade.html?action=click&contentCollection=N.Y.%20%2F%20Region&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article




Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 05:32 pm
It truly is a shame that Hoffman was consumed by an addiction that he, by many accounts, had held at bay for decades, and he was an excellent actor, but I always wonder why the lives (and deaths) of actors seem to be of such significance to people.

I'm sure that most people in this forum know that this is a relatively recent phenomenon, and that for far more years of our history, actors were considered on a par with beggars and thieves.

I admire the talent of actors like Daniel Day Lewis, Meryl Streep and Christian Bale; actors who can transform themselves into completely different people. I enjoy the performances of actors who have developed a screen persona that millions of people like to see in slightly different packaging: Jack Nicholson, Robert DeNiro, and Clint Eastwood for example. However, I just don't get the sort of near reverence, that some seem to have, for a talent that, to me, pales in comparison to that of musicians, writers/poets, and painter/sculptors.

There are hundreds of thousands of heroin addicts around the world and their lives are as tragic and pathetic as Hoffman's. Many have kids, all had parents and, probably (at one time or the other) dreams. Junkies die every day and yet it takes the death of a Hollywood/Broadway junkie to get a lot of people talking about addiction. No criticism of anyone is intended. When we have a connection with someone, we think of their experiences as something apart or above those of the many who are just like them. It's just hard for me to understand the connection some people seem to have with actors, and I can't help but think that celebrity as much as talent is a big factor.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Feb, 2014 05:41 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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I always wonder why the lives (and deaths) of actors seem to be of such significance to people.
for me I feel cheated out of what they might have produced towards the collective good. Scientist, politician, artist, academic....anyone who has special talents of collective value that we lose way before their time is a cause for sadness....for us.

Quote:
I'm sure that most people in this forum know that this is a relatively recent phenomenon, and that for far more years of our history, actors were considered on a par with beggars and thieves.
technology changed that, specifically the film camera, because then acting had the ability to touch a huge portion of the collective. Hollywood is widely credited with holding the collective together during the Great Depression.
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