InfraBlue
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jan, 2015 05:41 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

You seem to know a lot about the bible.
According to the bible
Who would you say is currently directing world affairs?
The God who created us?
Or the entity that tempted Adam and Eve?

Directing world affairs? According to the Bible there are various conflicting references in regard to the world, power, direction, etc.

According to your interpretation of the Bible you conflate references in various books of the Old and New Testaments to arrive at your question, "or the entity that tempted Adam and Eve".
neologist
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jan, 2015 06:35 pm
@InfraBlue,
Just take a stab at it, then.
The bible does give an answer
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jan, 2015 11:45 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Just take a stab at it, then.

Maybe you didn't read what I wrote above:
According to the Bible there are various conflicting references in regard to the world, power, direction, etc.

neologist wrote:
The bible does give an answer

More accurately, you have your interpretation-- what with rationalizations, contradictions, illogic, cherry picking and tortured translations--as "an answer."
neologist
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jan, 2015 11:47 am
@InfraBlue,
So, what you're saying is you really don't know much about the bible.
neologist
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jan, 2015 11:59 am
@InfraBlue,
Perhaps you could cite a few of the conflicting references.
And then pick the one you think most likely.
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Fri 23 Jan, 2015 04:25 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

So, what you're saying is you really don't know much about the bible.

Don't conflate the Bible and your interpretation thereof.
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InfraBlue
 
  1  
Fri 23 Jan, 2015 04:28 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:
And then pick the one you think most likely.

That's an incomplete sentence.

Pick the one I think most likely what?
neologist
 
  1  
Fri 23 Jan, 2015 06:23 pm
@InfraBlue,
I understand
You have no idea who the Bible identifies as the ruler of this world.
You know so little about the Bible, you won't even hazard a guess
FBM
 
  1  
Fri 23 Jan, 2015 06:35 pm
Now all we need is some evidence that the Bible's claims about its particular god are actually true...
edgarblythe
 
  2  
Fri 23 Jan, 2015 10:33 pm
@FBM,
Aw, you hadda go and ruin it.
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Sat 24 Jan, 2015 12:43 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

I understand
You have no idea who the Bible identifies as the ruler of this world.
You know so little about the Bible, you won't even hazard a guess

Oh, I'm pretty well versed in your interpretation and your rationalizations, illogic, cherry picking and all.

I won't parrot them for you.
neologist
 
  1  
Sat 24 Jan, 2015 12:29 pm
@InfraBlue,
I wasn't asking what you knew about me; I was asking what, if anything, you knew about the Bible.
Let's be more specific
Do you know of any place(s) in the Bible identifying the ruler of this world?
Then tell us which one gives the most insight, in your opinion.
InfraBlue
 
  1  
Sat 24 Jan, 2015 02:33 pm
@neologist,
I'm not referring to you. I'm referring to the theology you spout.

Get over yourself. You're sounding like Frank.

In the Hebrew Bible, the Psalms are rife with references to Yahweh's dominion over the nations.

The New Testament makes reference "the prince of this world,"the god of this world" in negative terms.

They provide insight into the Bible's inconsistencies .
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Neil Griffiths
 
  1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2015 08:45 am
@Smileyrius,
The Trinity is two things (ironically) - an intellectual conception by man to make sense of scripture, and a genuine attempt to make God's relationship with man persuasive. Personally, I think it fails on both counts. It's the Holy Ghost / Spirit part that gives me pause. Man is so burdened with the need to explain he concocts reason from mystery.
neologist
 
  1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2015 03:47 pm
@Neil Griffiths,
It fails on 2 counts, alright.
Fiirst, it is downright moronic
Second, it is not supported by scripture and, thus, we have no need to attempt to make sense of it.
Neil Griffiths
 
  1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2015 04:24 pm
@neologist,
I tend to agree. but 'moronic' is a bit harsh.
neologist
 
  1  
Thu 19 Mar, 2015 04:56 pm
@Neil Griffiths,
Yeah. That was harsh.
The harsh words should be reerved for the priests who deliberately obfuscate truth in order to maintain power.
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GoodNews2015
 
  2  
Sat 25 Apr, 2015 09:05 pm
@Smileyrius,
It doesn't make sense because it is a false doctrine. Triune gods existed way before Christ came to Earth (see Egyptian worship). Constantine was a politician who maneuvered pagans and Christians to coexist for political reasons. (See the "council of Nicaea") The Trinity doctrine totally negates the value of the sacrifice of Christ. "For God love the world so much that he gave his only begotten SON. The story of Abraham and Isaac was to foreshadow the sacrifice our Creator made for us.
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FBM
 
  1  
Sat 25 Apr, 2015 09:07 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Aw, you hadda go and ruin it.


http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb192/DinahFyre/11159971_10152772100598144_2956748944181476325_n_1.jpg
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Patches
 
  1  
Mon 27 Apr, 2015 07:33 am
@Smileyrius,
Quote:
I never understood it in Sunday school, and remain nonplussed to date, How do you make sense of it?
The Holy Trinity is three separate persons in one godhead.

1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
 

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