Saudis: Cut Oil Prices Before Election to Help Bush Victory

You guys just fall head over heels into the strategy. It's a PR and intelligence technique (and logically fallacious)...suggest deceit or error, and imply that, therefore, it's all bumkum.

You might wanna check this out...you know, re the lying thing....

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23321

Now, now Blatham, I never said Bush has not lied. Nor have I said that I think what he says should not at times be suspect. All politicians lie. I have never known one not too. So I take everything politicians say with some skepticism until I see facts to back it up. And there have been times I believed a politician and found out later he was not being totally honest. Which then makes me more skeptical of him.

Of course the Saudis are denying they're manipulating oil prices.

They were caught with their robes down!

There's your error. A 'fact' stated on page 12 has nothing to do with another fact stated on page 129.

This administration uses as its fundamental strategy in dealing with folks like DiIulio, Clarke, O'Neil, Woodwards...or anyone else who speaks out against them...character assassination and the attempt to discredit ALL that is said by suggesting some error(s).

Take Frist's attack on Clarke..."He stands to make a LOT of money...a lot of money." Of course, Frist himself had just published a book. And, though I may have missed it, I don't recall him making such a suggestion about Karen Hughes' book.

I saw Tucker Carlson on some pundit show several months back, relate a story where Karen Hughes had lied to his face, and he said she had. Now, I could use that in character assassination mode to discredit every thing she says in her book, but not only is that malicious, it is illogical.