dys, You're telling me! LOL. I've posted this link in another forum, but it may fit here too. Let me know. c.i.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/spacechat/livechat/michio_kaku.shtml
cicerone imposter wrote:They are, afer all, still 'guessing.'
Actually it is the question of persuasion. If they are persuaded, then they have a proof already. If not, they are guessing without proof.
c.i. yeah i would create a topic "steven wrights guide to the universe" or perhaps "how can i be in two places at once when i am really nowhere at all and where's my other sock"?
dys, Far beyond my time zone. LOL Wouldn't know where to begin. c.i.
collaboration? we could publish a thesis, market it to British Intelligence who would transfer it to the CIA demonstrating that Iraq is actually on the planet Arcturis but in a different dimension building weapons of micro-destruction.
dys, With your good imagination, all you need is a good PR man/woman that is better than what GWBush has, and you'll have success!
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c.i.
c.i. without some humor we might as well commit suicide.
So, in other words, satt_focusable, the "God" in the proof could be the same as anyone's realization that the universe is infinite, or that they have an unnamed sense that all is well.....or just about anything. So the "proof" may well not prove anything other than what we already know by common sense. That something is infinite, but it is not us.
Lola..
I cannot talk about the validity of logic in the proof of the existence of God by Godel, since I have not read yet.
Whispering: I do not think Godel has proved anything about God.
dys, A dreary thought - even under these circumstances. But, hey, I'm ready for some humor.
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c.i.
Dys, I think you are correct.
"Dys, I think you are correct" printed in bold and saved.
Kissing Dys for sweet remark
I'm sure there is a supreme entity, located just one step beyond our imagination. (Is that the Twilight Zone music I hear?)
I think there is a God, and I know he ain't me. ...these profound thoughts have brought me through alot.
when did this thread wake up?
If logic could successfully prove the existence of God(-like individual) or the individual with every positive properties, it would simply suggest an aspect of the nature of system of logic aproved by humans (or at least by logicians) to be persuasive, not the nature of "actual God."
It would amount to show the human inclination for a "logical God" and the inclination could be thought to be one of human nature, because it must be human that could assess the plausibility of the premises. Logic would not talk about the actual God but about the human tendency toward God.
Satt,
...I suppose God would have to have all negative properties also, right? BTW, your last sentence says a lot, in my book...In fact, you must be a very smart person, you agree with me a lot.
To be clear Satt,
...When I refer to your last sentence, I mean, it sums up the post pretty neatly. If I'm reading you right, you could very well be saying, "He knows, cannot say. He who says, cannot know."