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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
glitterbag
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 02:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Well, spendius has me worried. Tomorrow I'll have to identify and separate the cans in the cupboard and the shelves of spices (OMG I love spices) into moral, immoral and amoral foodstuffs. I'm absolutely sure that if the canned pears are immoral, they will have to go, and obviously I'll keep any onion or potato that's moral, I just don't know what to do with the amoral objects. I probably should check with my priest, but I haven't been to church in so long I have no idea who to ask for. Maybe I should check with Olivier, the faux Frenchman, I believe he's explained to me before that he is all knowing, oh wait, maybe it was a know-it-all. I'm still woozy from the the happy juice they give you during those upper-endoscopy fun fests.
spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 02:11 pm
@parados,
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So in other words, your argument about evolution being bad is complete hogswallow.


How can evolution be bad? I have never said evolution is bad. It's a ridiculous idea. As it is that evolution is good.

It is certainly a horrible spectacle though. And sensitive people, especially educated ladies, should not contemplate it. And it should not be rammed down their throats in the name of cod-science.

Ladies know evolution viscerally. They don't need any lessons. It has been deemed necessary by those who deem things that a degree of shame is associated with such knowledge. To tone it down a bit so to speak. Not that it works in every case. History and the Daily News speaks volumes of the cases in which the toning down had no effect. Biology suggests that with no toning down there would be nothing else in the joint to deal with. As there wasn't before the toning down got serious. Freud explains all that.

It is a hoax, and a monumental one, that you can provide ladies with a scientific underpinning to bolster the esteem of their visceral understanding as if no dramatic consequences will naturally follow. Only a hoax if carried out cynically of course. An error otherwise.

I imagine that only a complete fool would project an idiotic understanding of evolution, as if alleles, DNA and the labyrinths of cladistics are of any consequences to divine creatures who have no wish to know about such things and prefer to remain exteriority confections, as if him thinking there are no dramatic consequences in the backdraught is proof that there are none.

Maybe future evolutionists will have to make ladies ashamed of drawing attention to themselves. (See North Korea. Saudi. Uniforms and not even trusting uniforms.) As being impolite and plain bad manners. That might avoid the consequences.

Saps wanted. Although the process takes long enough for our resident saps to be out of the way when the consequences bear fruit and they are content to allow their entire male descendents to enjoy them. Probably a small number by then.

Which is why they steadfastly refuse to discuss consequences. In the hope that nobody will notice with the process being so gradual that this glaring absence, imagine any other policy not concerned with consequences, is easily disguised to the cross-eyed. Try putting it on fast forward.

It's just like spending all the grandkids wages before they are even born. They tell them how much they love them to compensate for the guilt they feel at screwing them and making them pay the debts off. On lower wages and shorter hours too. And more natural disaster caused by the grandkid's sweat having been transformed in advance into atmospheric disturbances.
farmerman
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 02:15 pm
@spendius,
why do I awlays have a sneaking feeling that you have a random phrase generator at your side and you just write connective links

Bullwar Lytton lives, his name is spendi
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spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 03:23 pm
@parados,
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That is why he won't answer my question because he recognizes that to do so would show his argument to be false.


He might have a more basic definition of macro-evolution than you have. The evolution of the central nervous system from inorganic matter and energy for example. The odds of that happening, and it happened, are uncalcuable I should have thought. Sufficient to lead some people to conclude that a Creation occurred. Throughout history most people have so concluded and it's a bit self indulgent to put it down to their stupidity and ignorance.

Just as it is a self indulgence to put down denial of evolution to stupidity and ignorance. All the reasons I have offered to explain denial of evolution were pragmatic.

I feel sure the reasons to accept evolution are pragmatic. As are the reasons to fuel the debt. And everything else. Macro and micro evolution look like much the same thing to me as they seem to be understood by those whose task it is to make the rest of us understand. Pragmatic chaps to a man. Once the tube with a hole at each end, and equipped with a reproductive organ, is underway it might be extruded by environments in all sorts of ways potentially uncalcuable as well.
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spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 03:30 pm
@glitterbag,
An immoral foodstuff is anything which causes, or might cause, a condition which results in a usufruct on the budget.

glitterbag
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 04:40 pm
@spendius,
Are you channeling Lewis Carroll? Does this remind anyone else of Jaberwocky?
spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 04:57 pm
@glitterbag,
What do you dispute about what I said?

Your response was no more than a donkey braying to exercise its brayer. Do you move in circles where that sort of thing is acceptable?

I guess you must do. How else could it be so natural and flow with such confident ease?
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spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 04:59 pm
@glitterbag,
Proust had a few tasty scenes of braying asses.
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glitterbag
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 05:10 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:


It is certainly a horrible spectacle though. And sensitive people, especially educated ladies, should not contemplate it. And it should not be rammed down their throats in the name of cod-science.

Ladies know evolution viscerally. They don't need any lessons. It has been deemed necessary by those who deem things that a degree of shame is associated with such knowledge. To tone it down a bit so to speak. Not that it works in every case. History and the Daily News speaks volumes of the cases in which the toning down had no effect. Biology suggests that with no toning down there would be nothing else in the joint to deal with. As there wasn't before the toning down got serious. Freud explains all that.

It is a hoax, and a monumental one, that you can provide ladies with a scientific underpinning to bolster the esteem of their visceral understanding as if no dramatic consequences will naturally follow. Only a hoax if carried out cynically of course. An error otherwise.

I imagine that only a complete fool would project an idiotic understanding of evolution, as if alleles, DNA and the labyrinths of cladistics are of any consequences to divine creatures who have no wish to know about such things and prefer to remain exteriority confections, as if him thinking there are no dramatic consequences in the backdraught is proof that there are none.

Maybe future evolutionists will have to make ladies ashamed of drawing attention to themselves. (See North Korea. Saudi. Uniforms and not even trusting uniforms.) As being impolite and plain bad manners. That might avoid the consequences.

Saps wanted. Although the process takes long enough for our resident saps to be out of the way when the consequences bear fruit and they are content to allow their entire male descendents to enjoy them. Probably a small number by then.

Which is why they steadfastly refuse to discuss consequences. In the hope that nobody will notice with the process being so gradual that this glaring absence, imagine any other policy not concerned with consequences, is easily disguised to the cross-eyed. Try putting it on fast forward.

It's just like spending all the grandkids wages before they are even born. They tell them how much they love them to compensate for the guilt they feel at screwing them and making them pay the debts off. On lower wages and shorter hours too. And more natural disaster caused by the grandkid's sweat having been transformed in advance into atmospheric disturbances.


. Were you drunk when you wrote this??? This is probably one of the most insulting characterisations of women I've ever seen you write. Please, leave those of us with lady parts alone and I won't try to tell you what it feels like to be kicked in your dangly parts by a horse.
spendius
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 05:18 pm
@glitterbag,
My "dangly parts" eh? Hear that lads. The fems were using "bits" 30 years ago. In local newspapers.

You know you have got them stumped when all they can think of doing is swing a leg at your goolies.
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parados
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 11:06 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

How can evolution be bad? I have never said evolution is bad.


spendius wrote:
In fact evolutionary thinking very readily lends itself to a justification of grotesque inequalities and depravities



Hmmm......
Wilso
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 11:20 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:


. Were you drunk when you wrote this??? This is probably one of the most insulting characterisations of women I've ever seen you write. Please, leave those of us with lady parts alone and I won't try to tell you what it feels like to be kicked in your dangly parts by a horse.


He appears drunk most of the time, and as I've pointed out previously, has a real problem with women and the sex lives of others, clearly because he's not getting any of his own.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 11:24 pm
@parados,
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From your point of view, you may see a lot of things. That doesn't make your math correct.

What are the chances of there being no duplicates if you randomly pick a number between 1 and 3 billion 660 million times? Yet your author assumes there would be no duplicates when he claims 22%.

The problem here Q is that when I try to ask you questions which would be research, you don't answer me. The math you claim proves evolution can't happen is rife with errors that you can't defend.


It is ok if you don't understand it.

he isn't the only source that makes it very clear evolution can't happen.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Thu 22 May, 2014 11:25 pm
Now, talking about the evidence..

where is it???
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spendius
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 03:34 am
@parados,
There's a difference, para, between evolution and evolutionary thinking.

As far as I can tell evolutionary thinking as nothing to do with evolution.
farmerman
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 03:53 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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he isn't the only source that makes it very clear evolution can't happen

How did all hese organisms , caught in the prisons of their own species time and space, get here?
Im curious as to what sort of hypothesis you DO support?

We don't see any elephant fossils back iin the Devonian, nor do we see any trilobites in the Plesitocene. Please explain
spendius
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 04:35 am
@Wilso,
One of these days, Wilso, somebody will put you in the picture regarding uxorious marital bliss. The pram in the hall.

And you might have saved yourself the bother of typing out "as I've pointed out previously" because we all know that you have. Many times.

I assume it gets you off in some way.

What you need is a mistress who has advanced opinions. I can recommend two sisters of that type in a four poster with champagne on the side. All night.

Sex requires money and a chamber designed for no other use. Your overalls hanging over a chair detract from the experience. Prof. Greer called it the Harry Stubbs.

All misogynists think women are no problem. Anybody who thinks evolution debates are about anything else but sex is neurotic. Hiding something from themselves as well as others. The debates are a form of indecent exposure. All discreet like. The need for artificial birth control gives the game away.

I bet you have a Black and Decker Workmate, skinned knuckles, considerable debts and a hang-dog expression. The missing yachtsmen deserted their ladies to sail the ******* Atlantic. So much for sex in their lives eh?

You are taking advantage of A2K being a site dedicated to "family values". Nobody on here is going to enlighten you. I'm certainly not. The more like you the better. Such lush pastures. Frustrated married women all over the place.

Sex is a bit more than a word.

You're under the cosh mate. My only problem is that I'm past it. It will be your turn one day. Whatever you do when it inevitably arrives is don't have recourse to Viagra. Evolution provides the correct remedy. Thank goodness.

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spendius
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 04:52 am
@farmerman,
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How did all hese organisms , caught in the prisons of their own species time and space, get here?


Splitting, hanging out pretty fragrant petals and copulation for the higher order members such as you and soon to be discontinued due to technological expertise.
farmerman
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 04:53 am
@spendius,
when I want your inanities, Ill ring a bell OK?
spendius
 
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Fri 23 May, 2014 05:13 am
@farmerman,
It won't make any difference to me fm whether you ring a bell or not.

You can't get more inane that asking why we don't see any elephant fossils back iin the Devonian, nor any trilobites in the Plesitocene.

What does that have to do with rendering wanking, pre-martital shagging, adultery, artificial birth control, divorce and homosexuality respectable which is what you are here to do?

I assume the answer to your irrelevant question is that there were no elephants in the Devonian and no trilobites in the Plesitocene.

How does it impinge on house prices? It's the economy, stupid!!

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