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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 05:30 pm
@spendius,
Said the blathering stump grinder.
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Olivier5
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 05:34 pm
@spendius,
What was your point about endogamy, spendi?
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 06:13 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:


And he admitted the other day that he sometimes finds my posts entertaining. I certainly do. If I was typing all these posts without it entertaining me I would check in to the nearest nut-house.


Pack a bag, they are coming for you tonight, destination, the laughing academy, you'll be very happy there.

Now back to the Thread: I don't know why people want to believe evolution defies the existence of a God. Science is not a religion, and people who accept evolution do not do so to escape morality. If I accept that it took longer to create the world than the 7 days according to the Bible, I'm not spitting in the eye of God. I'm not faithful to my husband because I accept the Bible literally. Science and religion do not cancel each other out.

I also don't understand why some believers are so threatened by the fact that many do not believe there in an afterlife or a God. Why is that so frightening, and why would you attribute all the evil in the world only to atheists? Plus Atheism is not a religion, atheists do not worship satan, they don't believe in
satan. Science is not a religion, it really and truly is not a religion.

Some time back, it was considered heresy to not believe the earth was flat, people were put to death for daring to insist the earth was round. So what was that, the church of religion or the church of science. I know many want to check off the appropriate things to go to heaven, but we won't really know until we die. There is either a wonderful afterlife, or there's nothing. If it's nothing, we will no longer be alive so we wont be disappointed we will just be gone.

Oy
Builder
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 06:17 pm
@glitterbag,
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There is either a wonderful afterlife, or there's nothing. If it's nothing, we will no longer be alive so we wont be disappointed we will just be gone.


What would one do with eternity anyways? I look forward to going to sleep every night. Waking up? Not always looking forward to that one.
raprap
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 06:55 pm
@glitterbag,
I believe the Big Kahuna is incredibly smart--to create a stable system with a minimum of rules is a supremely clever accomplishment. I firmly believe that these moderately intelligent monkeys are only using science to pick up the Big Kahuma game crumbs.

Consider Conway's game of 'life'.

In this game, Conway created simple rules that governed Conway's universe. In Conway's Universe, Conway is the Big Kahuna. The creatures in Conways universe can only really discover Conway is through the rules.

In our universe, we can only get to know the Big Kahuna is to discover the rules. IMHO science is the best 'hammer' we as moderately intelligent monkeys have, as yet, implemented.

Rap
edgarblythe
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 07:12 pm
Most evolutionists will tell you it's okay to accept god belief, if you wish, because evolution is not trying to prove that negative. It is only a study of life's origin, in the physical world and how it evolved. No mention of deities. Most of us who criticize religious belief are responding to the militant sort of Christians, who don't believe in personal freedom.
glitterbag
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 07:13 pm
@raprap,
If we accept that humans are taller in the 20th and 21st century than the ere in the 17th century, why do some people get so red faced and furious at the idea that perhaps we evolved into the human form of today from from a more primitive form billions of years ago.
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glitterbag
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 07:29 pm
@edgarblythe,
The purpose of science is to understand. When you think of all the various denominations of Christianity, each sect believes they know exactly what they need to do to keep God happy and get to Heaven. If you would imagine a person seeking spiritual guidance walking into a Lutheran church and asking the pastor if the Lutheran faith was the true faith and the path to salvation. At that time the pastor turns to the seeker and tells him, son we can help you but if you are truly seeking salvation, go across the street to the Presbyterian church, they manage to save more souls and God loves the Presbyterians like crazy.

It's not going to happen, people go where they are comfortable. I believe in freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
edgarblythe
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 07:35 pm
@glitterbag,
Well, I don't have many discussions with the religious in that sort of context. As I thought I made clear, it's okay if they want to believe that way, so long as they don't try to enforce their belief over me.
glitterbag
 
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Fri 9 May, 2014 08:48 pm
@edgarblythe,
Edgar, I lost my msg. I'm tired so I'll respond to you tomorrow. Can't stay awake much longer. Cheers until we meet again.
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spendius
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 04:09 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
why would you attribute all the evil in the world only to atheists?


I don't. I attribute it to *******.

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I'm not faithful to my husband because I accept the Bible literally.


How would ladies learn to be faithful to their husbands without guidance. In my experience it does not come naturally.

Perhaps being faithful because of Christian teaching is a more respectable reason than other reasons.

spendius
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 04:12 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Science is not a religion, it really and truly is not a religion.


Some professors disagree with that gb.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 05:36 am
@edgarblythe,
And now enters tweedle asshole into the discussion welcome eddy.
edgarblythe
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 07:00 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Relax and shed a few bitter tears with us.
farmerman
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:23 am
@edgarblythe,
Finnsy enjoys his churlishness, He has another thread in which hes asking folks to declare their political views so he (finnsy) can "correct their views" by insulting em . He urgently needs a sense of humor but I think the gene for that wasn't in his stork's UPS packge.


Ive always freely admitted that , If I can really enjoy my career as a hobby too, Ive found a great niche in my life. I think the only other science area I would invest time in would be archeology or developmental anthropology (however, I don't see any fortunes being made in those areas without a big movie deal).

I sincerely hope that spendi can, one day, be similarly rewarded by landing a position in ladies undies that would satisfy his unfilled desires and "nudge nudge" questions.

Next week I hope I can score some pictures of those "evolving menhaden" from the various dammed rivers in Connecticut. They seem to be running a fast adaptational morphing that is similar to the Nile Cichlids. The only differences are that these evolutionary changes were accomplished within the last 300 years (well within a timeline where Creationists cannot say that humans "WERENT THERE")

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:35 am
@edgarblythe,
More of the " I can insult you, but when you insult me, it's churlish behavior. "

You might want to actually contribute something to the discussion other than attempting to make sycophantic points with the farmer.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:39 am
@farmerman,
Jeeze do you mean that if I was born with a humor gene that I would find your insipid clowning to be funny? Like the use of "finnsy?" That must be a real knee slapper for those like you with the proper gene since you use it all the time.

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glitterbag
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:51 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
why would you attribute all the evil in the world only to atheists?


I don't. I attribute it to *******.

Quote:
I'm not faithful to my husband because I accept the Bible literally.


How would ladies learn to be faithful to their husbands without guidance. In my experience it does not come naturally.

Perhaps being faithful because of Christian teaching is a more respectable reason than other reasons.



Sometimes you are a sick puppy, and can be truly offensive and boorish.
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glitterbag
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:53 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
Science is not a religion, it really and truly is not a religion.


Some professors disagree with that gb.


And you think you have all the answers, does that mean its true?
farmerman
 
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Sat 10 May, 2014 10:57 am
@glitterbag,
the "professors" that disagree are mostly those invested in a worldview that has a god in direct charge. Most Christian sects n jews nd most others have a deity that is transcendant , not immanent.
 

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