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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 04:39 pm
@MontereyJack,
Agreed. Not just interpretations taught/preached as fact.
Repeatable, demonstratable, Observable.

Just as Jehovah witness, (muslims, mormons etc. too)have their interpretation of biblical scriptures, they knock on ppls doors, spreading misinformation/lies and don’t even realize it.
likewise with ppl who embrace evolutionism, they have their interpretations, and preach/teach their view of the world around them spreading misinformation and don’t have the capacity/ability to discern they have sadly bought into a lie. These ppl are intelligent and sharp, yet just simply deceived. (The Old me)

Life cannot be created without intelligence, a fact. Repeatable demonstrable observable. Life cannot evolve beyond its designed limits either. (Ie. dog kind, cat kind)
Knowing these things can help us discern when being lied to.

One thing is for sure, which we can all probably agree on, and that is the world is full of false information/lies. Someone (many many) ppl are wrong. Not everyone can be right. There can only be one truth.


farmerman
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 04:52 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Life cannot be created without intelligence, a fact. Repeatable demonstrable observable
Why then must you spread your beliefs only with lies like your previous few posts? Is it because you dont know how to even proceed to develop evidence??

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MontereyJack
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 06:20 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Life cannot be created without intelligence, a fact. Repeatable demonstrable observable. Life cannot evolve beyond its designed limits either. (Ie. dog kind, cat kind)
Neither of these statements is as you claim demonstyrably true. The fact that we share about 97% of our DNA with the higher apes, andr that we are closely enough related that it is theoreticall possible thoughrpretty unlikely that a human^chimp hybrid could come out of a human and chimp ingteraction, y(tgere;s some human chromosome doublingin huymans that make it more unlikely but it happens in the animsal kingdom too).your second statement bites the bullet too
farmerman
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 08:58 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Life cannot be created without intelligence, a fact. Repeatable demonstrable observable.
" A fact" hs evidence to support it. Your statement does not constitute evidence in the slightest. Do you really not understand?
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farmerman
 
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Mon 18 Feb, 2019 09:08 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Life cannot evolve beyond its designed limits either. (Ie. dog kind, cat kind)
Except when it dos. Did you know the name of the common ancestor to digs, cats, bears, weasels etc??
Common ancestry trumps "Immutability of kinds"
izzythepush
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 01:54 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Did you know the name of the common ancestor to digs, cats, bears, weasels etc??


Jim?
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farmerman
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 01:55 am
@farmerman,
That is, do you know the name of the lat common ancestor to wolves, dogs cats, bears, weasels, hyenas ??? Also, for extra credit, when did it live???

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Leadfoot
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 11:57 am
@farmerman,
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Common ancestry trumps "Immutability of kinds"

And both are compatible with Design.
Or neither are incompatible with Design, either way you want to look at it.
Leadfoot
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 12:15 pm
I see NASA and the Physics community is backing away from the 'Inevitability of finding Life elsewhere in the universe'.
It's still early but they are already preparing their scientific reasons why we might be alone after the lack of solid signs on Mars and the increasing number of finely balanced parameters found to be needed for a habitable planet to form and be stable enough.

They are calling it " The Rare Earth Hypothesis".

So either way they got it covered Smile
edgarblythe
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 12:26 pm
What I find really hilarious is when godders think, of all the billions of possibilities, life was created just on Earth at the whim of an invisible human-like mind. To what purpose? To do the invisible whatever's inscrutable will. Guiding single celled life to be fruitful and become human after a loooooooong stretch of time. At some point injecting a potentially immortal soul.
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farmerman
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 12:57 pm
@Leadfoot,
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And both are compatible with Design.
SO, once more, your views boil down to evolution via intelligence. We call that "Theistic Evolution", its been talked about many times and as Edgar above says,(I paraphrase) whasis point?

farmerman
 
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Tue 19 Feb, 2019 01:25 pm
@Leadfoot,
At the same time, after only doing initial surface investigations of less than 0.000001% of the planets surface, and at a cursory level, in the summer of 2018, the Rovers had indicated they found isoprenes and pre cursors to purines and pyrimidines and other organic molecules associated with construction of the living state. I dont think theyre "giving up", like the Drake Equation, people need to come up with all sides of a scientiific proposition.

Not finding any life left o Mars shouldnt be a game changer for anything.

Imagine one day, youll be stickin with your argument and we see a huge "Generation Drive" alien vessel show up at our door.

NEVER get excited about such propositions. Hell, were still coming up with hypotheses about the origins of the teeeniest of mammals and the relatively sudden disappearances of all of the huger mammal-like reptiles at roughly the same time. Itd be eay to say "Some Goddidit" but wheres the fun in being ignorant?
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 04:29 am
Maybe one day mankind will produce a highly engineered piece of machinery identical to bacteria.
Then we can still continue to tell our kids ‘There is no designer or intelligence behind the engineering’ just the time and chance God/creator/force.

I wonder what that engineer facial expression would be like huh? 😳
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 04:31 am
@MontereyJack,
Btw, 97% Similarity can also be interpreted as just common Designer, Common environment etc.
Just as a car and truck can be 97% similar. It is absolutely no proof that one turned into the other.
Interpretation interpretation.
I just find it interesting arguments like this even come up in the first place.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 04:33 am
My observations and experiences keep confirming that when God goes, anything goes, morality and logical thought just ‘sail away to no limits’
OldGrumpy
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 05:13 am
@edgarblythe,
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You can't create life from non life. You need a magic wand to create life from NOTHING. Much more scientific and logical.


I agree, so the whole evil-lotion thing is wrong then eh?! Like most stupid things are, eh?!

Well, the whole of 'science' is extremley stupid! Life from nothing, big bang from nothing, it's all so hilarious if you look at this garbage, why the heck do we call it 'science', eh!?
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 05:20 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
False.
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 05:22 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
There's an evidentiary timeine that shows you're wrong.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 05:43 am
@MontereyJack,
Timeline? Only in the religious textbooks brother.
farmerman
 
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Wed 20 Feb, 2019 06:02 am
@MontereyJack,
Science??? We dont need no steeenkeng science!! We got Alley Oop, Da Bible, and ANSWERS IN GENESIS
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