@Leadfoot,
Quote: ID is not a religion.
And you don't mind others, who object, being forced to pay for an education that is so biased that it is bastardized. And I mean everything from History to Biology. Small exception for Math, it's hard to get people to believe that 2 + 2 = 5 unlike in biology where ignorant people will believe virtually anything the establishment says.
Can you understand that the CONSTITUTION governs governments AND peoples practices in our nation. I have no idea where your hysteria comes from but
Epperson, Aguillard, and Kitzmiller are all cases in which the aggrieved felt their rights were violated by being required to "accept" an academic principle that, was based on one brand of religion when the school system teaching was PUBLIC, NON PAROCHIAL.
You still have parochial schools systems that can teach science as they wish as long as the scholars produced can pass the state required skills test. (Its quite amusing that most parochial schools, except those founded through fundamentalist Christian Hassid Jew, Lubavitch Jew, and Fundamental Islam ),all teach science as SCIENCE not via a religious purview.
Why is it you wish your views be forced to be taught in Public schools, Im really confused why you should be trying to force fit a worldview into schools. What you believe is really of no concern to me or even an ineterest beside this discussion. But please dont be callin the duck a pelican.
Quote: ID is not a religion.
And you don't mind others, who object, being forced to pay for an education that is so biased that it is bastardized. And I mean everything from History to Biology. Small exception for Math, it's hard to get people to believe that 2 + 2 = 5 unlike in biology where ignorant people will believe virtually anything the establishment says.
How bout physics? or chem?. If youre gonna take on biology, you better roll up yer sleeves and get ready to take on all physical and biological sciences.
Im not a historian but I see us coming to new understandings about our history as time marches on. I was, and I think you too were taught many "truths" in history about which weve reached new conclusions .
Same thing with science. However, oneof the areas we havent yet changed any basic tenets is that we have seen no evidence of a "designer" involved. You, and Im referring to your most recent spiehl about a designer SO INTELLIGENT, that he could mimic evolution just to fool us. I consider this kinda beyond mere religion and more into the realms of magic. (Kinda like Dr Behe , who, when cornered in his
own xpert testimony during Kitzmiller(in which he represented ID as a Science and not a religion), HE actually stated that very soon, the SUPERNATURAL will be a scienceThis is summarized in Judge Jones opinion that said clearly that Dover School district (based on the above statement made by Dr Behe and other testimony) was guilty of violating the estblishment clause of the US CONSTITUTION and was therefore, not protected in its definition of science. In other words, the school district was basing its biology on a foundation set by GENESIS, not , the scientific method.
I dont know, maybe its me, But I feel that this whole brew ha ha was really made clear by Jones (op cit). ( BESIDES , It only affects one Fed Court District, but so far, no-one has seen fit to challenge Jones -----And even in the more Conservative (religion) states , I see that their Legisltures are stepping on school ditricts that want to challenge the establishment clause on their own. (MOst of those believe that Kitzmiller was poorly represented by the Discovery Institute , bcause they pulled out at the last minute and that screwed up their defense)
Y never get what ya want, but maybe, sometimes......
