@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
see the title of the thread? . Academic Denial of evolution usually sports an attempt at
"heres why I deny it"
(Except here on A2K) Allopatry is a type of macro evolution that IDers usually pass over wherever they can. So far from what Ive seen.
"Evolution doesnt exist because it mathematically cant and besides theres no evidence " (just read some of Ole Grumpsters ravings). You agree that evolution exists but sem to bend strongly to a religious argument . I mention allopatry because its a form of evolution that appears to be strongly tied to a dissected environmental base and two or more changing environments from which the parent species had originated.
Im always interested how "Scientific ID" handles the discussions of a changing nvironment and biological responses.
Just curious , Im sure, by having strong opinions, your opinions have to have some technical roots YES?
If you dont know why something occurs via scientific methods, HOW then, can you even mount an intelligent argument.
In my fild, Ive always taught the phrase that the BEST geologists have been the folks that have seen the most rocks. We are always put upon by rock colletors who argue points out of science ignorance(BUT, when straightened out, some of these folks become scholars). NOT SO with most evolution deniers. They may read one isolated ubjct and then dwell on its power to "PULL DOWN DARWINIAN EVOLUTION", yet they dont recognize the many other points of parallel evience that allow us to explain how this "isolated fact" falls seamlessly into the panoply of all evolutionary evidence.
As I said, JUST CURIOUS.
There's a simple idea that goes beyond any discussion about the specifics of science, which is that whatever turns out to be true in terms of the history of the universe and life, etc.; it happened because God. God is just an attribution of ultimate agency to the universe and nature, so there's no scientific argument that can make any claims regarding the existence or non-existence of God, because divinity can simply be attributed to the workings of the grand machinery of the universe, whatever those may be.
So as a person who believes in God, I don't have any fear of science revealing some truth that undermines religion, because whatever turns out to be true is true because God made it so. Whatever is less than true is sin because lying and misunderstanding are deviations from pure truth. Now, remember I am also Christian so I believe we can't ever expect to escape sin completely, because it is built in the imperfect nature of the creation, but we can strive to do better and accept forgiveness for always falling short of perfection.
So, science, like religion, aims to know the truth of God/nature, but we accept that our knowledge must always remain tentative because it will always evolve further toward better truth. There's no finish line in science or moral achievement/reform.