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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 07:43 am
@izzythepush,
eh?
izzythepush
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 09:14 am
@farmerman,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8094716.stm
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Setanta
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 09:53 am
To Americans, a jock is an athlete, who, like Winnie the Pooh, is of little brain.
farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 01:57 pm
@Setanta,
sorry but yeh, a jock is a reference to a particular piece of clothing (named after Jacques Streppe, a Canadian designer of athletic safety equipment used to protect a Hockey Players junk).
Athletes wear these things , thus, athletes became known as "Jocks" and , yes, it was a kind of assessment of the intelligence , or even response time of the athlete in normal conversation.
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farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 01:57 pm
@Setanta,
sorry but yeh, a jock is a reference to a particular piece of clothing (named after Jacques Streppe, a Canadian designer of athletic safety equipment used to protect a Hockey Players junk).
Athletes wear these things , thus, athletes became known as "Jocks" and , yes, it was a kind of assessment of the intelligence , or even response time of the athlete in normal conversation.
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farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 02:20 pm
@farmerman,
when I taught geology, my unit was responsible for the geologic education of our Fooball team. I had some poor grad students teach, what became known as "Rocks for Jocks".
A somewhat abbreviated survey course of Physical geology that was NOT meant to challenge them. we did have several fooball players who, despite the easy pass they had handed them to maintain their scholarships, hos , intead to take degree path courses in the several sciences, including BS level Geophysics and geochemistry.
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MontereyJack
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 03:07 pm
@OldGrumpy,
Those are lit-crit, not exactly a science journal. Fail.
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MontereyJack
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 03:10 pm
@OldGrumpy,
Not an ideology. Not a religion. Science, derived from observation, and since the discovery opf DNA, experiment.
farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 03:24 pm
@MontereyJack,
I get a freebie "journal" from a hromatography equipment business association, Its a journal like LCDSJ, and I keep getting questions as to why I subscribe to journals f the gay community. the Journal i like the "Journal of Liquid Chromatography Detection SCiences.
My answer is always "Cuz they have the best recipes"
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OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 11:14 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Not an ideology. Not a religion. Science, derived from observation, and since the discovery opf DNA, experiment.


Hate to bring it to you, once again, 'science IS, albeit a tiny disguised, a RELIGION.

Hence most experiments are so deeply flawed, because the INTERPRETATION ( aka science) is extremely flawed and biased.
( In line with the RELIGION that is.)
Really, if one looks closely no one can take 'science' seriously anymore.

But look around you, all institutions are failing and going down, including 'science'.


lol a march against 'anti- science' was needed! Really?

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_for_Science )

It is just the (good) sign of the Times. And it shows how deeply deeply insecure the RELIGION called 'science' is at the moment.
Just imagine a march to be sure that tuesday it is tuesday. Not needed of course, it is on solid ground. the RELIGION called 'science' is not, hence the marches. The RELIGION formerly known as 'science' is in deep deep trouble, and rightly so.


And some people try to cling to their obsolete religion, (eh farmerman?) .

So be it.

farmerman
 
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Fri 26 Oct, 2018 11:22 pm
@OldGrumpy,
Im sure we will all recognize that you are a wise man who just believes in oogah boogah and woo woo.








not to mention nyuck nyuck and nudge nudge
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 27 Oct, 2018 02:48 am
@farmerman,
Bit short sighted only letting the Scots do athletics, a nation that produced the deep fried mars bar wouldn't be my first choice for sports.
farmerman
 
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Sat 27 Oct, 2018 05:31 am
@izzythepush,
I know, but theyre the only ones we can find who dont successfully sue for brain damage after their careers are over. Seems its hard to tell what the evidence actually shows in a SCotsman.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 27 Oct, 2018 07:50 am
@farmerman,
Frankie Boyle does a routine where he talks about seeing someone pissing up against a front door in Glasgow late at night. After he's finished pissing, he gets out his keys, unlocks and goes in.
farmerman
 
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Sun 28 Oct, 2018 07:12 am
@izzythepush,
Been ponering about how to make ID become close to being a scientific inquiry. So far, all the position bases for ID are founded on INCREDULITY, which, after we look at all the arguments for ID (newest name is "Genius Dsign), they all seem to revolve about a "god of the gaps" argument.Sorta like --" Eyes are too complex to have arisen by undirected evolution", The gap is arriving at a conclusion that says
-"So eyes must have been designed"

NOPE, Heres an idea I herd the nugget of from a bunch of grad students I met with after our fossil hunting of the last few weeks.

1 There are many features that living species share with designed mechanics and chem (Make a list of these similarities)
2Where it gets scientific is to NAme the features in the same species that do NOT get shared with dsigned mechanicals or chemicals

3 Analyze and compare your lists

4 Design test studies for components of the lists.

Not creating work but I think those kids had the brilliant idea of comparing similitude and qualification/quantitation of components. Setting up experiments to do the above would need to be done, and statements about such component "Falsification" and planning for lab or field testing

I often said that I had No Idea about what a valid program would look like. Maybe I just spoke out my ass on that one because, as one looks a bit more objectively about the components of such an inquiry, we would need to derive answers that are clearly massed toward a design argument through lab/field studies. Perhaps each component would lead to deeper and deeper studies in order to clarify what "genius design" entails.


IM ON YOUR SIDE cause I love to argue with someone whose quivers are requiring guys on the side I reside to go deeper into the actual science rather than just dismissing the arguments by gentle reminders about where the source information has been deroven
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farmerman
 
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Mon 5 Nov, 2018 05:42 am
@farmerman,
Diane Douglas the Arizona Supt of SChools has been busy revising the state ed policy on teaching Creationism and ID as science. She hired a "biology intructor' from Arizona Christian University (A school of supposedly higher ed whose biology program is NOT FULLY ACCREDITED by the regional board of Accreditation) , a guy named Keezer. Keezer made statements that "the evidence clearly supports a 6000 year old earth an a FLOOD, and evidence of humans and dinosaurs existing contemporaneously).
The education standards board didnt include Keezers "findings" in the new science policy, and instead, DIANE DOUGLAS got unelected in the state primary. So she's out in the end of December, BUT she will still apparently try to get her Creation /ID "be taught as science" pushed through the legislature.

While Christianity is NOT a fringe belief, teaching Fundamental Christianity as science IS.

NCSE is watching this so theres not another case being brought in order to validate Biblical Creationist thinking as science.

**** never goes away to die, it keeps getting recycled by ideologues who claim they have evidence to prove their beliefs, yet none never sees the light.

Maybe the people are getting wiser, as Ms Douglas was soundly defeated in the election
brianjakub
 
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Mon 5 Nov, 2018 09:20 am
@farmerman,
No I believe intelligent design. But if I have to believe in the six dollars and you're to be a Christian I'd become a Deist. These Chrisians who throw logic to the wind or not helping the cause.
OldGrumpy
 
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Mon 5 Nov, 2018 10:19 am
Problem of course is, it has nothing to do with 'evolution' vs 'design'.
It is way more simple then that. That is, there is NO EVIDENCE for
(macro) evolution to be found anywhere.
The idiots who call them selves followers of the religion called 'evolution' can't think straigt anymore. This is a FACT. They think automatically if one is 'against' evolution one has to be pro 'design'. But alas, it is more simple than that. LACK OF EVIDENCE for the evil-lotionists.
evil-lotionists have been brainwashed and they can't even see that. they can only think in black and white (evolution vs design).
farmerman
 
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Mon 5 Nov, 2018 11:25 am
@OldGrumpy,
my advice to you is that you hould find someone who actually gives a **** about what you allegedly "think", and bend their ear. I think youre just a couple logs short of a cord.
edgarblythe
 
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Mon 5 Nov, 2018 11:28 am
@farmerman,
maybe he thinks life migrated here from the Twilight Zone.
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