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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 04:39 am
90 min video of Flood evidence:
https://isgenesishistory.com/90-minutes-of-evidence-for-the-global-flood/

I have not yet watched the whole thing, yet seems worthy of posting for those looking for a different interpretation of things.
livinglava
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 05:42 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

My many years old challenge remains unanswered.
LET US SEE SOME EVIDENCE THAT A CREATIONIST/ID WORLDVIEW HAS EVER LED TO ANY MARKETABLE DISCOVERIES (Besides selling bible tracts and model dinosaurs for the gift shops).
i dont think we will be surprised with any geographically based findings or discoveries based on Ctreation/ID "science"

It is a false notion that the theory of evolution in in conflict with creationism. Evolution is how God creates and continues to create life and the universe. Whatever mechanics of nature are discovered to be true, those are the mechanics of (the) creation.

All theories deciphered by humans are necessarily incomplete. Moses' vision was incomplete as are modern evolutionary models. Each model contains true elements, however, and so none is wrong, per se', except in those aspects which are found to be wrong by later models.

So, for example, when the book of Genesis says the Earth was created in six days, that quantity of time was most likely defined in that way to refer to 'God's days,' which would be a way of referring to unquantifiable geological time scales in terms that humans can understand. Likewise, it says that humans were created in God's image because we only have the capacity to understand universal aspects of the universe relative to things we can understand by means of our own limited minds.

Still, we are able to grasp some universal truths and fundamental aspects of nature with our minds, so we can recognize that our perceptions and understandings are a reflection in some way of God's, i.e. because we are capable of deciphering what is true from what is false, so we can know that everything that is (truly) true is universally true and thus also true at a divine level.
Olivier5
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 06:01 am
@livinglava,
No marketable discovery in there...
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Olivier5
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 06:03 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
I think you're beter off NOT watching the whole thing... The truth will set you free, but lies won't.
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 08:56 am
@livinglava,
Quote: ‘So, for example, when the book of Genesis says the Earth was created in six days, that quantity of time was most likely defined in that way to refer to 'God's days,'
Quote ‘evolution is how God creates and continues to create life in the universe.’

I would say the number one reason that is Not a biblical teaching is because the book of Genesis reveals that God created his creation vegetarian, and the book of Isaiah reveals that he will make it that way again when he returns.

Genesis 1:29 ‘every seed and plant for food’
Genesis 9:3 (after the flood, flesh eating began)
Isaiah 11:6 ‘a child will lead them, the lions and cobras’
This is what God called ‘good’, not flesh eating creatures for millions of years.
Thoughts?


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rosborne979
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 09:12 am
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:
It is a false notion that the theory of evolution in in conflict with creationism. Evolution is how God creates and continues to create life and the universe. Whatever mechanics of nature are discovered to be true, those are the mechanics of (the) creation.

Everyone seems to have their own version of creationism. Yours seems to be that the actions of God/Creation are indistinguishable from nature. But if that's the case, then it's fruitless to even mention them as anything different at all. Nature is God. Welcome to Pantheism.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 09:25 am
@rosborne979,
Quote: ‘nature is God’
In other words, you believe in the false God of random time and chance.

The same time and chance God thatbcannot produce anything more then what Olivier Gave as the best example, which was a penis shaped cloud.
That was the best example I ever heard of randomness producing information.
And yes, this false God is just as illogical as a God of thunder you see?
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 09:39 am
@livinglava,
Also, as everybody can observe, evolutionism and godlessness go hand-in-hand. (Ungodly ppl with ungodly morality)
As Gungasnake has pointed out in another thread, it is a destructive teaching which should not be mixed with the truth of gods word.

Just as when Israel was headed into the promised land, God warned them not to mix with the morally bankrupt people known as the Caananites....but of course Gods people did anyways....Just as godly people today get mingling with other religions like evolutionism:(
The repercussions are terrible. 😔
OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 09:48 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
if you are implying that 'believers' have better 'morality', well let's say that in most lands were those 'believers' live, well, the 'morailty' is rather low.

NONE needs faith or a jesus or another idiot for their 'morality'.
Even worse, that , having faith and all that shite, makes one less 'moral'
It is really all fucked up bullshit!


Ah well, the non-existent 'jesus' started a war already. he came not to bring 'peace' but a sword!!!!!

That says it all doesn't it?! It is ALL fucked up bullshite!
Setanta
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 10:06 am
The only flood here worth mentioning is the flood of bullsh*t from the god squad.
rosborne979
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 10:09 am
@Setanta,
And what a flood it is. It gusheth forth in waves.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 10:31 am
@OldGrumpy,
When You say the morality is ‘low’ I ask by whose standards....yours? You see, you are making yourself King, dictating right from wrong.
In other words, what you see is bad someone else sees as good.

It seems humanity needs a ‘king’....God is to be our king you see?
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 11:36 am
@OldGrumpy,
You also said Jesus ‘started a war’....no, he did not.
You are misinterpreting his words when he said he ‘brings a sword.’

A sword divides and severs....to divide the godly from the ungodly.
And when he returns he will have ‘a sword coming out of his mouth.’(revelation 19:15) the sword of judgement which divides👍

Here:
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-sword.html
OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:14 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
When You say the morality is ‘low’ I ask by whose standards....yours?


Nope, not mine, just do the research, that will tell you. Nice try though!

Quote:
You see, you are making yourself King, dictating right from wrong.


I make myself King? wtf?????????????????? You ARE more crazy then I thought!


Quote:
In other words, what you see is bad someone else sees as good.


Oh, that one again, eh!? relative morality, eh?! what a load of bullshit!
let's take murder or pedophilia, to mention a few is very very wrong,
unless....

Hmmm NO! Bullshit. it IS WRONG
See how fucked up you are made by your 'faith'?

Quote:
It seems humanity needs a ‘king’....God is to be our king you see?


No, humanity doesn't need a king at all! Humanity needs to grow up!

Man where the hell are you coming from?
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OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:22 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
You are misinterpreting his words when he said he ‘brings a sword.’


I came into a bar with a gun, and said I do not come to bring 'peace'

What then happened I didn't remember, but I know for sure they misinterpreted what I said!


lol, what a fuckin joke those stupid religions are!
edgarblythe
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:25 pm
His disciples carried swords. Whacked off a man's ear, if I correctly recall. Sounds warlike to me.
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:27 pm
@OldGrumpy,
If You were a sheriff, I could see what you mean If you were to say that.

You are misinterpretingthings just as people who embrace evolutionism.It leads down the road of crazy worldviews.
No the words, you got it backwards just like them. Sry brother.
OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
His disciples carried swords. Whacked off a man's ear, if I correctly recall. Sounds warlike to me.


No, no, noooooooooooooo. You have it all wrong! You misinterpret it all, mate!!! Wink


Hell, no! You are right!
Helloandgoodbye
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
And if you read my link, you would see the Jesus told him to put the sword away for who lives by the sword die by the sword
OldGrumpy
 
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Fri 5 Oct, 2018 01:29 pm
@Helloandgoodbye,
Quote:
You are misinterpreting things just as people who embrace evolutionism


well, first of all, I don't embrace stupid evolutionsm, if you didn't understand that by now...

And well, tell me then wat I am misinterpreting and why that is.
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