Farmer et al keep trying to make the discussion about religion
I have a rural mind, you are wanting to mount the podium of reasonableness, yetYou have not drawn the connection between the history of modern ID and its delight at upestting the Bill of Rights to create a "Christian Sharia State"
The Constitution is supposed to be SILENT on religion. The state does not deny your rights of worship, but it also does deny your attempts at imposing your religious beliefs into my breakfast cereal.
The ENTIRE Scientific Creationism/ID movements have been built around a religious worldview.
Im sure its gonna sink into your had sooner or later.
You keep saying over and over that the Dover case was ""irrelevant" Thats the same wy that your whiner-in-chief Lyman uses an epithet of "cheese eater". I guess if ya say it enough and people buy it. (DCourse I love cheeses all kinds of cheeses).
If you think Dover was irrelevant then you should view the country qnd see what the various Fed Districts are doing wrt this issue since 2005. NO cases are imminent
, yet the main ID players are tuning up and creating "model legisltion" that seems to be considerably watered down wrt bringing God back into the schoolroom.
I understand how you and others want to discount the Dover decisions relevance, as well as that of the previous Louisiana decision of the USSC. LAw only defined what is, or is not, religion that comports with the "free exercise and the establishment clauses " of the First Amendment. To have Creationist or ID views be declared religious (while it IS a fact) , theyre probably a bit deflated when trying to have these views open as real science and therefore open for inclusion into HS science curriculum.
As I said to you recently, Ive seen the modern ID positions slowly morph more and more towards "Theistic evolution" so its not spending as much time on butting into the school room but is trying to figure out how to live within the system. (Thats where I think the big push for "Charter SChools" has come from), although many states have closed the "Charter schools can teach whatever they wish" door.
Here in Pa, we pay for 1/2 the charter schools budgets and we tie requierements of skill levels attainment to those bucks. I think over half the nations school systems operate under that rule or some variant of it.