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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Builder
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:34 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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Capricce?


You mean Kapeesh?

It's kinda hard to believe that you've sustained this thread for this long; but I guess there's a succession of peeps in your list now, and not just the same ones.

Quehoniaomath
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:36 am
@Builder,
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It's kinda hard to believe that you've sustained this thread for this long; but I guess there's a succession of peeps in your list now, and not just the same ones.


Whatever is needed for you to think.

Do you support the extremely stupid religion of evolution and if so, why?
Builder
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:39 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Arthropods. I've hit you for six with this one before, just a couple of weeks ago. Not surprising that you don't remember.

You had no answer for me then, and won't have one now.
farmerman
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:39 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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I don't care what someone says or write for that matter,


When someones mind is so made up, they will deny everything including carefully studied evidence and experiments. Much of his denial is based upon his inability to understand simple concepts , but till, a great deal is based on a worldview that rules any thinking.

Quahog is a 1st class passenger on the HMS DELUSIONAL


Quehoniaomath
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:42 am
@Builder,
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Arthropods. I've hit you for six with this one before, just a couple of weeks ago. Not surprising that you don't remember.

You had no answer for me then, and won't have one now.


Maybe I don't want to remember a disciple of this religion. Wink

Anyway, the 'evidence' is not up to me anyway , it is up to the extreme myopic fundamental evolutionists.

There simply is none. Only the peopel who are hypnotised into this rubbish and bollocks and what not, see it everywhere! It is ridiculous to see them talk about
non-existing things! Very funny to read btw!
Builder
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:46 am
@Quehoniaomath,
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It is ridiculous to see them talk about
non-existing things!


Arthropods live in your tearducts, and the pores of the skin on your face. Nice try, but no banana this time.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:16 am
@Builder,

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Arthropods live in your tearducts, and the pores of the skin on your face. Nice try, but no banana this time.


lol! again an Ad Hominem and doesns't say a thing!
But you people still can't deliver the goodies!
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hingehead
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:20 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Oh I get it. You want evidence but you don't want to see anything, read anything, do anything, or think.

Ignore for you time waster.
Olivier5
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:40 am
@FBM,
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I was reading recently where someone hypothesized that people engage in denialism for emotional reasons and suspend reasoning in those special areas where reasoning leads to uncomfortable conclusions. A person might not be able or willing to analyze religious/magical thinking objectively because, for example, it challenges cherished family traditions or social identity. Rejecting religion might feel like rejecting loved ones who are believers.

There is usually an ideological or deep psychological motivation. But atheists do it too, eg to take a broadside at christianity, Pedanta on another thread denied the historical Jesus. And it IS clearly a case of anti-science denial, for ideological reasons. To each his own pet denial.

However, I often wonder what ideological or psychological reason can lead anyone to doubt the number pi... The irrationality of the number perhaps.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 08:10 am
@hingehead,
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Oh I get it. You want evidence but you don't want to see anything, read anything, do anything, or think.

Ignore for you time waster.


No you don't get it. , I DO ask for REAL evidence!

And yes, I do think, I do think there is NO evidence, because no one shows any!

if there is any evidene what is the problem with showing it???

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FBM
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 03:48 pm
@Olivier5,
Yeah, I imagine most people have at least a few bubbles of denialism in them somewhere. Einstein refused to accept quantum mechanics to the end, despite the strength of the theory. Somebody might have a blind spot for a loved one's character faults, etc. As for the existence of the historical Jeebus, I'm not sure that one's a slam dunk either way, is it?

And pi...hmmm...The only way I could think of to argue against pi is to ask whether a "number" that has no definite value fits the definition of a number. But that's solved by calling it imaginary, I guess. Can't imagine denying the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, though.
edgarblythe
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 03:52 pm
@Olivier5,
****
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Olivier5
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:22 pm
@FBM,
Indeed, it could affect any of us.

Historians specialist of the era agree that the hypothesis that someone invented Jesus altogether is highly unlikely, if not downright impossible. The 'Jesus myth' hypothesis has near zero takers in scientific circles.

You deny imaginary numbers? ;-)
FBM
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 06:38 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Indeed, it could affect any of us.

Historians specialist of the era agree that the hypothesis that someone invented Jesus altogether is highly unlikely, if not downright impossible. The 'Jesus myth' hypothesis has near zero takers in scientific circles.


It does seem implausible that the stories are pure fiction.

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You deny imaginary numbers? ;-)


Neither affirm nor deny. I honestly don't know what their status is vis a vis real numbers. Can't deny their utility in the sciences, though. In much the same way (I think?), fictitioius characters are very useful for authors who have a truth to express or, for that matter, stories to sell.
ellease1
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:01 pm
@izzythepush,
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I'm not remotely interested in any problems, enigmas, puzzles or conundrums you feel fit to pose.


You are mistaken, just because you do not understand it does not make it a problem. Obviously it appears to be a problem for you, since you do not understand.

Consciousness is puzzling, but that is only due to your social imposition. You think you are an individual person, this is what the society has imposed upon you. If you become more aware of your standing within the field of consciousness as opposed to your standing in the mediocre field of social normalcy, your intelligence become sharper and you realise the ultimate.

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So far the only thing you've managed to point out is the flaming obvious,


What exactly do you think I'm pointing out which is so obvious?

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you're the only one who seems to think there's any sort of mystery going on.


Who said there was anything mysterious going on? There is nothing mysterious about the real. The puzzle lies within the realms of the unreal, an infant figures this out as soon as the dummy is taken away from him.

I have not come here to take anybody's dummy away, so you needn't start kicking around in your pram.

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I know you think you're awfully clever and all that, but I really couldn't give a ****. (Bet you get that a lot.)


Only from an ignorant point of view. But that's to be expected. An individual cannot possibly be privy to the facts and cannot be anything else but ignorant. So there is nothing clever about being awake, it is know as awareness. Apparently you can wake up anytime you like, just pay attention to yourself. It would also helps if you could learn to read to understand.
ellease1
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:06 pm
@FBM,
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LSD is a helluva drug.


ayahuasca is even better.
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ellease1
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:14 pm
@FBM,
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When someone is opposing a genuine theory, s/he is engaging in denialism.


Like the one that denies there is only consciousness in existence , forms disappear and reappear. Where do all these forms emanate from? You can earn yourself a gold star here if you get it right. FM.
FBM
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:17 pm
@ellease1,
ellease1 wrote:

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When someone is opposing a genuine theory, s/he is engaging in denialism.


Like the one that denies there is only consciousness in existence , forms disappear and reappear....


In what way does this fulfill the criteria for being a scientific theory?
Wilso
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:35 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:

ellease1 wrote:

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When someone is opposing a genuine theory, s/he is engaging in denialism.


Like the one that denies there is only consciousness in existence , forms disappear and reappear....


In what way does this fulfill the criteria for being a scientific theory?


Whatever he/she is on - I want some.
ellease1
 
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Wed 7 Jan, 2015 07:37 pm
@Setanta,
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He's referring to Ellease, who has not actually addressed the topic of the thread.


If you have understood the meaning of the word actual, you would actually realise that the topic has been addressed in my response.

Evolution is a concept related by convention, it is as simple as that. People who deny evolution sense that their existence cannot be related to a cause in consciousness. Unless of course you are a sock puppet. Then naturally you will believe whatever the society sublimates .

A concept of any kind must be verbal constructed by someone. If someone has conceive of a theory then that to all intent and purpose must put the one who has conceived of the theory prior to it. So until you bring that element into the equation, no matter what concept you decide to concoct you are talking BS!
 

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