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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 07:22 am
@Herald,
Self written binary computer code is impossible, unless there is a source code, that was written.

You are as dumb as a shoe. You are proving God. thanks.
Herald
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 07:28 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:
Self written binary computer code is impossible
     I am not claiming that - it is a mock at the claims of their theories (Evolution and the Big Bang).
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:
unless there is a source code, that was written.
     What and where is the source code of the DNA?
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:
You are as dumb as a shoe. You are proving God. thanks.
     To be 'as dumb as a shoe' and to prove the existence of the Intelligence of the Universe is an oxymoron, don't you think - contradiction within the self, FTWW.
     ... and the 'question': Why do people deny evolution? is invalid as a question, because it assumes a priori (without any justification) that the Evolution is an axiomatic truth of the last resort, and all those who are denying the absolute truth of Life are 'desperate denialists' ... which is not exactly the case of the objective reality and the evidence.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 07:47 am
@Herald,
There are no examples of self writing code, of human origin. DNA does this of coarse and when we understand how, then we should be able to create DNA, which means we will be able to create life, which means that we are fulfilling the God equation.
parados
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 08:17 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
It seems you don't know the first thing about computer code. It can be short or long. The shortest code can be only a few bytes. Computer code also doesn't have to achieve any results. The following is computer code and does nothing but it is code.

00000000
00000000
00000000


But you seem to forget that you keep arguing that DNA is computer code. Who designed your DNA? Give us the name of the person that designed you since you are going to argue that someone did. Then we can ask that person if they did do the design because clearly they aren't a very good designer.

Just because you have a tin foil hat doesn't mean the rest of us should have one too. Yours does look so nice on you. Too bad it doesn't do what you designed it to do.
parados
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 08:22 am
@Herald,
Computer code writes code all the time. This website uses code to write the code to create the webpage you are looking at. No human wrote the code that created the page you are looking at.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 08:25 am
@parados,
Even your do nothing computer code, was designed. Are you aware of just how much design, went into your computer, and the internet for you to pose your ignorant hypothesis?

Answer = No, as if you did, you clearly would not have done it, unless you are actively trying to embarrass yourself.

DNA is not computer code as we know it, this does not preclude, that it is not computer code that we do not understand. However DNA is code of some kind, this is clear. You do not know the name of the person who designed the plastic connector, that holds your ram to your motherboard, but you know that they existed, because your computer is real. Thus, ascertaining the name of a person or being that was here in the past, is not needed to know that they were here. At least if you understand logic.
FBM
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 08:36 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

...and the 'question': Why do people deny evolution? is invalid as a question, because it assumes a priori (without any justification) that the Evolution is an axiomatic truth


How's that thesaurus working out for ya, Herod? You're wearing it out! Good to see that you're at least picking up some new vocab, even if you don't know how to apply it yet. Laughing

Quote:
of the last resort, and all those who are denying the absolute truth of Life are 'desperate denialists' ... which is not exactly the case of the objective reality and the evidence.


Spoken like a true desperate denialist. Laughing
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 08:58 am
@parados,
But computer code, that writes computer code, was written by a code writer, your analogy actually proves God.
farmerman
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 09:02 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
you need to start with hydrogen, helium, and lithium as the only heavy elements and then go from there.
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parados
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 09:29 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
You don't seem to understand the difference between reading and writing code. Reading 00000000 as an operation was designed into the computer but that doesn't mean that every time 00000000 exists it was designed. Cosmic rays can cause bits to change in your computer memory. Voltage spikes can cause bits to change in your computer memory. Static electricity can cause changes in the bits. That doesn't mean those bits are "designed" when the computer reads them.

Actually, I can find out who designed the plastic connector. All I need to do is go to the database of patents and find the device. It will tell me the names of the person or people that designed it and when the patent was applied for.
http://www.uspto.gov/patents/process/search/

Your "logic" is that everything that exists was designed. That is simply an ipse dixit. It isn't logic at all. It merely assumes something not in evidence.
parados
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 09:31 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:

But computer code, that writes computer code, was written by a code writer, your analogy actually proves God.

Only if you are arguing that humans are God.
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Herald
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 10:55 am
@DNA Thumbs drive,
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:
There are no examples of self writing code, of human origin.
     ... and how has the DNA of the Biosphere of the Earth been 'created' or received, or materialized or whatever the process there might have been?
DNA Thumbs drive wrote:
which means we will be able to create life, which means that we are fulfilling the God equation.
     So and so we are an instance (obviously) of the Intelligence of the Universe, why should that be of some wonder?
     BTW how did you come to know that we are the first and still the best ... instance of the Intelligence in our Universe?
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Herald
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 11:01 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
How's that thesaurus working out for ya, Herod? You're wearing it out! Good to see that you're at least picking up some new vocab, even if you don't know how to apply it yet
     This is the ad hom part of the answer, and the actual comment on the issue is: what?

     RE:Spoken like a true desperate denialist.
     If you are curious to know the immanent characteristic of a denialist is to use very often ad homs to reinforce his own negative generator for stochastic generation of negations of any kind.
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Herald
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 11:13 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
You don't seem to understand the difference between reading and writing code. Reading 00000000 as an operation was designed into the computer but that doesn't mean that every time 00000000 exists it was designed. Cosmic rays can cause bits to change in your computer memory. Voltage spikes can cause bits to change in your computer memory. Static electricity can cause changes in the bits. That doesn't mean those bits are "designed" when the computer reads them.
     So your personal theory of the things is that a Gamma Ray Burster might have invented our processors and computers? Can you give an example of an emission/ray that is sending encoded DNA sequences ... at random ... throughout the Universe?
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 12:14 pm
@Herald,
Now, that's one of the dumbest question I've seen on a2k. What has emission/ ray have anything to do with encoding DNA sequences? Can you come up with more foolishness? I'm sure you can.

You have good imagination, but they're out of the realm of reality and science.
Herald
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 12:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Now, that's one of the dumbest question I've seen on a2k.
     Would you switch off for a while the generator of negative reasoning and start answering (if you can) on the issue ... BTW this question is not to you. Why do I have the suspicion that you are simply using the occasion to send at random some negatively charged lightning.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 01:11 pm
@parados,
Bits of distortion in hundreds of millions of lines of computer or DNA code, can be expected, they do not however create the code, so no one can see your intended point.

Now I will say this, you point out a similarity between binary code that we know is the product of intelligence and DNA code, which is that they can be effected by the same things, which helps reaffirm, that DNA is code, and perhaps just a computer code, from our future, that was left here in the past. You are actually doing a pretty fair job, at proving my ideas, so thanks.
DNA Thumbs drive
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 01:14 pm
@Herald,
Because he has no clue...........................
cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 03:56 pm
@DNA Thumbs drive,
Since some of you have the clue, please share them with us. LMAO
FBM
 
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Tue 30 Dec, 2014 04:30 pm
"Negative reasoning." That'd be funny if it weren't so hypocritical, coming from someone whose entire time is spent attempting to tear down the whole edifice of science, while positing no positive thesis of his/her own. Rolling Eyes
 

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