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Why do people deny evolution?

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 01:58 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
I just watched this and it is his one and only thesis: the earth could be considerably younger than generally assumed:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wr-lXLGCxQ

Ps: interesting hair-do...
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:01 pm
http://www.videobash.com/video_show/idiocracy-intro-245281

Worth a watch. It will 'splain lots.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:21 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
I just watched this and it is his one and only thesis: the earth could be considerably younger than generally assumed


yes, but the key-word here is COULD not IS!
He makes it abundantly clear that the method used by evolutionists
are so damned unreliable that we cannot know the true age of the earth!
farmerman
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 02:59 pm
Milton's geology is what is mostly fucked up. His "Authenticated artifacts from coal seams" is rubbish. NOt because sone geologists "dismiss them" its because a real geologist has , in most cases found that the artifacts and the encasing material is of very different age. A geology grad student from Calgary had taken a number of the artifacts from Appalachian coal seams and found that there were several differences in the context of the "artifacts"
They were encased with sulfitic deposits and other salts that are deposited from the coal seam atmospheres. Its quite common. Also, the "artifacts " were not found in the seams themselves, they were found in the rubble left when the seams were dug.
Ive seen these artifacts from ST Clair Pa, they are easily debunked as true Pennsylvanian aged material.
To top it all off, the sampled C14 of te wooden artifacts were from the 19th century and the C12/C13 rqtios of the matrix and the wooden artifacts were entirely different, indicating two separate source terms.

We went through the whole thing about 4 yers ago here on A2K. I think gungasnal=ke or a guynamed "Medved" brought it up.

A grad student from a candian university debunked the whole story yet these guys still drag it up.
STill, Milton's conflating some real scientific inquiry( epigenetic Lamarkianism) with some Sci Fi Bullshit.


ANybody with a computer can start a blog or write scifi crap but still,every so often run up some good ideas that we need to consider. I put Milton in that class.
Quahog dismisses ALL evolutionary theory , whereas Milton is selective, he just has some of his facts very wrong.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 04:10 pm


Quote:
'Education'

"Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool" (Plato)
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Olivier5
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 07:57 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
His point is that the earth is about 200,000 yrs old or something like that...
FBM
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 08:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

That's the ticket! They can't even provide one evidence for their god, and they keep demanding more evidence for science and evolution. How they are unable to see their own idiocy is fascinating! They've lost their ability at logic, common sense, and reality. They live in another hemisphere where logic doesn't exist.


Tell me about it. I think it's safe to say, "They're not even wrong."
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Herald
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
They've lost their ability at logic, common sense, and reality.
     What do you know about logic at all, except for empty talk without any relevant to the theme semantics. Can you name at least ten rules for logical inference?
FBM
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:14 pm
@Herald,
Can you name at least one piece of evidence for a god?
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Herald
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:27 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You're trying to slip your Bronze Age god-theory into the gaps in science, but considering that there's absolutely zero evidence for your god.
     I was thinking that God is yours ... or perhaps the Devil (of the lies, money and power).
     You don't take the possibility of lost information in the history record of the Universe seriously, do you? ... as you call it leniently 'gaps in science'. Lost information is not gaps in science - it is an abyss in the possibility of ever get knowing something. If you don't understand that, no red shift in the light spectrum backed up by 50 Nobel Prizes and missing any physical evidence of anything of the kind ever happening in the real world would save your favorite theory. The truth always emerges on the surface in the end ... and it doesn't matter how many years this may take.
FBM
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:30 pm
@Herald,
So, anyway. Got any evidence to support your god hypothesis?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:34 pm
@FBM,
Herald, Have you ever seen your god? Is it anything like you've never seen evolution? LOL
Herald
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Herald, Have you ever seen your god? Is it anything like you've never seen evolution?
      ... and have you ever seen anything of the Big Bang as physical presence ... or perhaps you have confirmed by physical experiments all the key processes, it is claiming to have executed 'as an event'. Can you name at least one?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:47 pm
@Herald,
As explained, the BB is a theory that has support by most astronomers.
http://www.universetoday.com/106498/what-is-the-evidence-for-the-big-bang/

Here's another that provides evidence for the big bang theory.
http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/astro/cosmos/bb_evid

If you disagree with their theory, prove it from your own evidence.
Can you provide just ONE EVIDENCE for your god?
Herald
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:48 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
So, anyway. Got any evidence to support your god hypothesis?
      Yes, I have: all the Nobel Prizes for the Big Bang are actually for the elementary particles that are mapped into the light spectrum and concern directly the structure of the elements ... and have never had anything to do with any Big Bang, any evolution of the stars, and any expansion and creation of any 3-D space out of any 11-D hyperspace of any kind. The 11-D space is extremum of a math formula and nothing else.
This 'event' of creation of the world is simply an unknowable to the present day achievements & scientific tools area that has been misused with for decades. When something is unknowable - everything goes. This is the jackpot of all jackpots ... of physics, science ... and religion, of course.
FBM
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I thought this was pretty funny. Abut 150 mya, some theropod busted its ass and we still have a chance to laugh about it:

Quote:
Dinosaur's Klutz Moment Preserved in Time
By Stephanie Pappas, Senior Writer | November 05, 2013 07:26am ET

DENVER — Some 150 million years ago, a two-legged dinosaur walking across a mudflat pulled a bit of a vaudevillian pratfall — and left a permanent record of its stumble.

A series of tracks in the Oklahoma panhandle near where the state borders Colorado and New Mexico reveal where a dinosaur slipped and caught itself before continuing on.

The klutzy dinosaur was a theropod, according to research presented Oct. 28 here at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. Theropods were a group that included such recognizable meat-eating wonders as T. rex and Deinonychus. [In Images: The Life of Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Researchers aren't sure what species created the tracks in Oklahoma, but the fossils do capture "a frozen moment in time," said study researcher J. Seth Hammond, a graduate student in geosciences at Fort Hays State University in Hays, Kan.

The tracks cross the bed of Carrizo Creek, a seasonal stream north of Kenton, Okla. The paleontologist who first described the tracks in the 1980s reported 47 footprints in a row, Hammond told LiveScience, but because of erosion, only 14 are visible today.

...

Photos at link: http://www.livescience.com/40936-dinosaur-slip-fossil.html?adbid=10152380905756761&adbpl=fb&adbpr=30478646760&cmpid=514629_20141115_35673507
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FBM
 
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Sat 15 Nov, 2014 11:54 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
So, anyway. Got any evidence to support your god hypothesis?
      Yes, I have: all the Nobel Prizes for the Big Bang are actually for the elementary particles that are mapped into the light spectrum and concern directly the structure of the elements ... and have never had anything to do with any Big Bang, any evolution of the stars, and any expansion and creation of any 3-D space out of any 11-D hyperspace of any kind. The 11-D space is extremum of a math formula and nothing else.
This 'event' of creation of the world is simply an unknowable to the present day achievements & scientific tools area that has been misused with for decades. When something is unknowable - everything goes. This is the jackpot of all jackpots ... of physics, science ... and religion, of course.



Quote:
ev·i·dence
ˈevədəns/Submit
noun
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation
"they found evidence of his plotting"
LAW
information given personally, drawn from a document, or in the form of material objects, tending or used to establish facts in a legal investigation or admissible as testimony in court.
"without evidence, they can't bring a charge"
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation More
signs; indications.
plural noun: evidences
"there was no obvious evidence of a break-in"
synonyms: signs, indications, pointers, marks, traces, suggestions, hints; manifestation
"evidence of a struggle"
verb
verb: evidence; 3rd person present: evidences; past tense: evidenced; past participle: evidenced; gerund or present participle: evidencing
1.
be or show evidence of.
"that it has been populated from prehistoric times is evidenced by the remains of Neolithic buildings"
synonyms: indicate, show, reveal, display, exhibit, manifest; More


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FBM
 
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Sun 16 Nov, 2014 12:03 am
Don't understand the universe? There's an app for that: http://cs.astronomy.com/asy/b/daves-universe/archive/2014/11/14/astronomy-s-cosmic-origins-app-nominated-for-folio-eddie-award.aspx
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Herald
 
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Sun 16 Nov, 2014 12:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
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'All galaxies are moving away from us (our galaxy - the Milky way)'
     Cherry picking, bro. It is 'all distant galaxies', where distant is conveniently omitted and the statement quickly skips through the cherry picked 'evidence'. Thus for example it has been proved by math calculations that Andromeda is travelling towards the Milky way and will collapse with it in the next 5-6 billion years. To disprove 'for all possible interpretations' statement it is enough to find out at least one exception. BTW how are galaxies collapsing as they are travelling apart from each other 'all the time'?
Ci, if you have written the rules of logical inference as I suggested to you herein above, you would have understood better the presentations of any evidence.
FBM
 
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Sun 16 Nov, 2014 12:09 am
@Herald,
Quote:
in·fer·ence
ˈinf(ə)rəns/Submit
noun
a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
synonyms: deduction, conclusion, reasoning, conjecture, speculation, guess, presumption, assumption, supposition, reckoning, extrapolation
"there should be no inference drawn from the fact that he chooses not to be a witness"
the process of inferring something.
"his emphasis on order and health, and by inference cleanliness"


Emphasis added. Laughing
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