@FBM,
FBM wrote:You have some serious misconceptions about BB Theory. It's about the early evolution of the universe.
Obviously - early evolution suggests there has to be there late evolution as well. Do you claim that at present there is no Big Bang in operation anywhere, and that the evolution of the stars may continue without or without the Big Bang on auto-pilot, controlled by stochastics?
FBM wrote:Observed expansion is what led to the hypothesis, further observations and necessary inferences (mathematical calculations) based on those observations.
The math equations are logical model (of inference and representation after appropriate physical interpretation). Any model of representation is inaccurate (by various reasons, incl. misinterpretation of previous inferences) ... and the models that are based on fake or missing or mind-blowing assumptions are the most inaccurate of all.
FBM wrote:No, let's not accept any such thing, because it's nonsense. The BB hasn't expanded, the universe has.
... and when it has stopped expanding, also how and why?
FBM wrote:Nothing has "arrived here."
This is definitely not true. The radio telescope detects EM signals coming from outer space and the red shift in the light spectrum coming from the outermost parts of the Universe is Evidence No.1 and sole for the existence of the Big Bang ... as an event, or call it as you wish. Nobody has ever seen anything of the Big Bang - how it looks like, how much time it will need to expand from zero-D space into 3-D Universe through the 11-D Hyperspace, where has it gotten all that energy from (to create the Universe incl. its mass and energy respectively), etc. All you have is red shift in the light spectrum ... and nothing else - and you cannot even tell whether it is due to the long distance of light travelling throughout the Universe or retro change in the spectral analysis of the elements at the launching of the Universe (if it has been created at all and not has always existed, for example), or due to something else. Big Bang is nothing but a virtual reality - not less virtual than God, for example.
FBM wrote: Dude. Pay attention. The BB was an event.
... that has created (that nobody has ever proved) the Universe out of the Hyperspace (the existence of which is unverifiable) and out of the dark energy, where in astrophysics 'dark' means unknown as structure, source and properties. What kind of an event is that, which can make impossible things ... out of unknowable assumptions?
FBM wrote: You're conflating it with the universe as a whole.
I am not combining it with anything - it is immanent part of the astrophysics and of anything that we will ever get to know about the Universe.
FBM wrote: or you're disingenuously twisting words so that you can slip your Bronze Age myth in there.
You cannot slip my 'Bronze Age myth' in the 'Scientific Age myth' ... and BTW how did you come to know that the Bronze Age Myth is mine? I am agnostic.
FBM wrote: But the fact remains that you're trying to treat the BB as if it were an entity, which the theory doesn't.
The theory claims that the BB is the beginning of all beginnings.
FBM wrote: The way you keep putting scare quotes around the word 'theory' seriously suggests that you don't know the meaning of the word
... or alternatively this may mean that something presented as a theory is inconsistent as a logical structure (we are not talking about truth of representation of the physical world yet). When something is inconsistent as a logical structure (full of contradictions with itself and the rest of the world) a not entirely bad idea is to put it in questions marks - just in case.
FBM wrote: Speak for yourself, hoss. You have no way of knowing what I know and don't know. You don't have access to my mind.
I am not talking about you - the talk is about the data from the radio telescope ... that you are even unable to read let alone to make some interpretations.
FBM wrote:As for the "huge gaps" of information, that's the pot calling the kettle black if I ever heard it
The missing information in our understanding of the world is for the first time set as a problem by the philosophical school of agnosticism. By Def.: Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of God, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown or unknowable.
O.K.: Is Hyperspace metaphysics or it is a routine part of the conventional astrophysics? You and people like you are claiming that you know everything about the Hyperspace, and also about the sources of Dark Energy that the Big Bang has been using - it is not me.
FBM wrote: I'm not sure if it's even possible to have a bigger gap in your god theory, since there's no evidence whatsoever to support it.
The theory that information might have been lost in the Universe is not mine - this issue is set forth by S. Hawking in connection with math inferences in the theory of the Black Holes. Most of the people don't pay any attention to inferences like that ... and not few are those that cannot even understand what it might mean.