@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Its easy to argue the lack of any direction, "design" or "intelligence" when everything we see can pretty much be defined by chemical , biochemical, and physical reactions through time.
That observation begs the question entirely. One could as well argue that an electric power plant involved no design in that we can explain and define the transformation of chemical potential energy into heat through combustion in a boiler and its subsequent transformation into mechanical energy in a turbine and electrical in a generator - all therough the known laws of physics and thermodynamics. Where did the boilers, turbines and generators , and indeed the laws of physics on which they operate come from?
farmerman wrote:
We pretty much can see these events and their consequences and as such, most inquiries seem to discount anything that reads "intelligence".
Actually,the arguments I find have more cred than "universal intelligent design" is "Intervention" after these planetary events or catastrophy.
Perhaps a straw man here. Continuous intervention is an entirely unnecessary stipulation, not found anywhere in even Medieval Theology. Thomas Aquinas spoke only of the first, "uncaused cause".
farmerman wrote:
Still, such intervention does not leave a clear enough mark to discount ordinary Darwinian Evolution with maybe a smittering of Punctuated Equilibrium.
I'm not discounting ordinary Darwinian evolution at all, only the truly absurd notion that it somehow explains the origin of the universe. Even Darwin didn't claim that.
farmerman wrote:
Howd you like to have some street guy call one of yourwater treatment plants "UGLY"?
Well I just got through revewing one we're designing for a large contaminated GW site in Puente Valley, LA, and it is fairly ugly.
