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Morris: Gorelick U.S. Official Most Responsible for 9/11

 
 
Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 08:55 pm
Wednesday, Apr. 14, 2004 10:45 PM EDT

Former chief White House political advisor Dick Morris charged Wednesday night that 9/11 Commissioner Jamie Gorelick is the U.S. public official "most responsible for 9/11 happening."

"Of all of the public officials in the Clinton administration and the Bush administration, the one who is most directly, in my judgment, responsible for 9/11 happening is Jamie Gorelick," Morris told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

Morris cited the now notorious Gorelick memo, a document she issued in 1995 while serving as deputy attorney general that impeded the U.S.'s war on terrorism.

"This woman is bad news," Morris charged. "She ran the Justice Department for three years - Reno was a figurehead during that period."

The top political consultant said that it was Gorelick's "invention to set up this wall that separated investigators from intelligence gatherers."

Morris cited the arrest of the so-called 20th hijacker, Zacarias Moussaui, whose computer contained the names of some of the Sept. 11 hijackers and the flight schools they attended.

While prosecutors pursued Moussaui on an immigration violation, he said, "they couldn't let the intelligence types look at his computer."

"Jamie Gorelick is more responsible than anybody for [the] 9/11 [plot] going undetected," Morris concluded.

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Sofia
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 09:07 pm
I hated that smirking bitch.
Thankfully, now I may have a good excuse.

This must be who Ashcroft was talking about.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 09:39 pm
Well I think it was terribly bad judgment, but I'm not going to blame her for 9/11. I do not believe she would have implemented the policy, had she known the damage it could do.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 09:56 pm
see, just 2 days ago, you wanted to have the commission shut down. We now find that there was a systemic problem that denied intelligence access to the stuff that law enfoircement discovered. Maybe now , knowing that the interagency communication"wall" was not imposed by turf but by memo.
I think this transcends political crap. It helps the commission recognize that there must be a complete and total removal of interagency secrecy.
I was thinking of a computerized method wherein all these daily memos and security docs and data are vetted by a computer using a KWIK index type of strategy (key word in context) this has been a technique used in scietific pubs for years. What happens is if an algorithm is set up to determine possible inferential links among similar words, topics, or phrases, it flags them and connects the reference memos. Now the only problem is who will be the crew in charge.?
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Jim
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 10:58 pm
Sorry, I don't believe in blaming the victim for the crime, regardless if the crime is rape, or 911.

The United States was not responsible for 911. Al-Qaida was responsible. Period.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 11:02 pm
Farmer, I never said or suggested that the commission be shut down. I put that out as a matter of legitimate debate. I did deplore and I still deplore the partisan sniping going on in the commission.
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Wed 14 Apr, 2004 11:52 pm
Republicans see conflict, urge Gorelick to quit panel

By James Lakely
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Pressure is growing for Jamie S. Gorelick to resign from the September 11 commission for what the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee has called "an inherent conflict of interest."

Ms. Gorelick, who served in the No. 2 position in the Clinton Justice Department under Attorney General Janet Reno, was the author of a 1995 directive to the FBI, which repeatedly has been cited in testimony as a major hindrance to antiterrorism efforts prior to the 2001 attacks.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin Republican, said yesterday he thinks "the commission's work and independence will be fatally damaged by the continued participation of Ms. Gorelick as a commissioner."

"Commissioner Gorelick is in the unfair position of trying to address the key issue before the commission when her own actions are central to the events at issue," Mr. Sensenbrenner said. "The public cannot help but ask legitimate questions about her motives.

"Testifying before the commission is Ms. Gorelick's proper role, not sitting as a member of this independent commission," he said.

The Gorelick directive is credited with thickening the "wall" that prevented federal prosecutors and counterterrorism agents from communicating even though their separate investigations could help catch terrorists.

"These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that [federal law] is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation," Ms. Gorelick wrote in the previously secret memo.

Appearing on CNN's "Larry King Live" last night, Ms. Gorelick said, "All of the commission members have some government experience. Everyone is subject to the same recusal policies. You could have had a commission with nobody who knew anything about government. And I don't think it would have been a very helpful commission."

Attorney General John Ashcroft declassified the four-page document just before his testimony to the commission on Tuesday to help make his point that Ms. Gorelick's directive created "draconian barriers" to uncovering the September 11 plot.

"If the commission doesn't take this issue seriously, undoubtedly a large segment of the American people will see its findings as incomplete and partisan," said Mark Levin, president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, which also has demanded that Ms. Gorelick step down.

Commission Chairman Thomas H. Kean and Vice Chairman Lee H. Hamilton both dismissed the calls for resignation.

"Of course not. That's a silly thing," said Mr. Kean, who said Ms. Gorelick has followed the same rules as every other commission member and has, in fact, been one of the most "nonpartisan" members.

Ms. Gorelick was appointed to the commission by Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, South Dakota Democrat, and former House Democratic leader and presidential candidate Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri.

She has been criticized by Republicans for what they see as the partisan tone of her questioning of witnesses from the Bush administration.

During the testimony of National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice last week, Ms. Gorelick characterized the White House's attempts to coordinate intelligence gathering as "feckless" and argued with Miss Rice's contention that President Bush put the federal government at their "battle stations" when terrorist chatter increased in summer 2001.

Ms. Gorelick took as much time making comments and asking questions as Miss Rice did answering them and finished her session with Miss Rice by saying that "the debate will continue" over whether the Clinton or Bush administrations better thwarted terrorist attacks.

In an interview on Sean Hannity's national radio show yesterday, Mr. Ashcroft also suggested that Ms. Gorelick should resign from the commission

"I think that individuals who are the actors whose policies are under inspection and judgment probably should not sit as judges in those cases," Mr. Ashcroft said.

Failure to remove her from the commission, he said, will leave people questioning its standards when the final report is released in July.

The commission "has to decide what kind of standards it's going to have," Mr. Ashcroft said. "Whether it's going to have standards that would reflect a disaffection for those kinds of conflicts or whether it is going to ignore" the conflict.

Mr. Ashcroft said yesterday he declassified the Gorelick memo because he felt the other commission members "ought to know."

"It was a fact that had simply not been made known," he said.

Indeed, the first commissioner to question Mr. Ashcroft, former Republican Illinois Gov. James R. Thompson, asked to see a copy of the memo on Tuesday.

Ms. Gorelick recused herself this week from questioning her former boss, Miss Reno, and former FBI director Louis J. Freeh, who had to abide by her directive in 1995. But she gave no hint that the memo's revelation would cause a conflict of interest.

"As my colleagues know, the vast preponderance of our work, including with regard to the Department of Justice, focuses on the period of 1998 forward, and I have been and will continue to be a full participant in that work," she said during Tuesday's hearing.

Mr. Levin said her continued participation "taints the whole process."

"The commission wasn't even aware of her memo until John Ashcroft revealed it," Mr. Levin said. "She is hopelessly conflicted.

"The fact that she's a commissioner insulates her from scrutiny, and that's the problem," he said. "She should not be a commission member, she should be a star witness."

Ms. Gorelick suggested that if Mr. Ashcroft was so concerned about the restrictions placed by her policy, he had an opportunity to change it before the attacks, but did not.

"My successor [as deputy attorney general] wrote a memo before 9/11 in August of 2001 leaving those policies in place," Ms. Gorelick said on CNN Tuesday night. "[Commission member] Slade Gorton pointed out in his exchange with John Ashcroft, a fairly tough exchange, I might say, that in the four areas that Attorney General Ashcroft says were problematic and that he inherited, he left three of them in place."

• Stephen Dinan contributed to this report.
Washington Times
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 05:32 am
sorry foxfyre if I piled on . I am often guilty of assuming the aauthors concurrence with the subject of a thread especially if the author of a thread merely cuts and pastes a newspaper article without any personal opinions(like the above mr spider). I must, therefore, be more critical of my own biases or else thread authors who cut and paste should be required to add some of their own thoughts(yeh thatll happen).
However, we can see that, if left to its own roadmap. this commission will begin to find out where and how the wheels fall off. I look at this like an airline crash. Wherever the data and evidence leads us, we must follow. If it turns out that the pilot was in error, or the pilot was given incorrect data settings, or the equipment failed, then we are better prpared to correct the situation for the next time. I know that this commission is loaded with political agendas but, after they are done, some competent analysts will be able to sift through the tons of testimony and find a solution . It may be something as simple as "share your data among the various intelligence and law enforcement agencies"
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 05:53 am
I suppose if I were forced to give an opinion on the matter, it would be that she does need to resign. As someone who was personally involved with the intelligence failure, she certainly has the capability to direct the investigation away from anything that might put the blame on her. And doing that might skew the results so the commission might come to the wrong conclusion. And that might allow the vulnerability to remain in place so that it could be exploited by another terrorist group.
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infowarrior
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 06:31 am
How interesting that a political adviser with no experience in counter terrorism is suddenly qualifed to attack a member of the 9/11 Commission in order to make his conservative bosses look good.

Is it possible that Dick Morris is still smarting over being caught on tape philandering with a babe behind his wife's back?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 06:33 am
infowarrior wrote:
How interesting that a political adviser with no experience in counter terrorism is suddenly qualifed to attack a member of the 9/11 Commission in order to make his conservative bosses look good.

Is it possible that Dick Morris is still smarting over being caught on tape philandering with a babe behind his wife's back?


Yeah, that's it... Rolling Eyes
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 06:36 am
Well, looks like this could be the scapegoat bush inc. has been praying to georges' personal savior for.....we will hear of little else now I predict......and of course while all this is going on in an election yar we hear nothing of what's going on domestically....smoke and mirrors......

btw what were you expecting Dick Morris to say? anything at all different? Rolling Eyes
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 06:40 am
Let me get this straight...The 9/11 commission is supposed to be finding out the truth about what led up to the event, as long as it only implicates Bush?

That seems quite extraordinary.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 06:51 am
McGentrix wrote:
Let me get this straight...The 9/11 commission is supposed to be finding out the truth about what led up to the event, as long as it only implicates Bush?

That seems quite extraordinary.


actually quite the opposite is on the bush agenda....why do you suppose it was like pulling teeth to finally get rice up there to testify? Or I guess that didn't really occur?

I'd like nothing better than to know the real truth...I don't know which to wait for with more excitement. the truth about 9/11, the truth about the Kennedy assasination, or the the truth about where Hoffa is buried.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:03 am
Well, weve gotta see this through. I believe Gorelic should become a witness . Its unusual but not unprecedented
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:09 am
The conservatives are running scared. They can see the writing on the wall for the shrub, and they're desperately grabbing at any straw they can clutch.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:12 am
Running from what? I have yet to see anything from the 9/11 commission that would instill any fear at all into the administration.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:14 am
farmerman wrote:
Well, weve gotta see this through. I believe Gorelic should become a witness . Its unusual but not unprecedented


I agree.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:14 am
McGentrix wrote:
Running from what? I have yet to see anything from the 9/11 commission that would instill any fear at all into the administration.


no surprise there. besides bush inc. is too arrogant to be afraid.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 15 Apr, 2004 07:19 am
again, afraid of what?
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