Scientific studies: Religious people are less intelligent than atheists

Even ultra-Orthodox Jews who strictly observe the Old Testament kosher laws, recognize that blood transfusions are NOT prohibited by God's command not to eat blood..
Saving a life is one of the most important Jewish mitzvot (commandments), Therefore, if a blood transfusion is deemed medically necessary, then it is not only permissible but obligatory.

The Old T bans taking ANIMAL blood into your body-
"You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood" (Lev. 17:14)

So it's beyond me where JW's get the notion that it also means human blood?

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I MOST ASSUREDLY NEVER SAID THAT...AND I DEFY YOU TO FIND ANYWHERE WHERE I DID. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RESTRICT YOURSELF TO THIS THREAD...OR EVEN TO THIS FORUM.

YOU CANNOT DO IT...BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED!

Then why are we having this argument? That is what started this entire thing. I told you I did not believe that gods exist. You said the burden of proof was on me to prove my belief. I said that I did not have a belief and that a lack of belief was the definition of atheism. You claimed that atheism itself is a belief.

The rest, as they say, is history.

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So...you are offering the fact that I said I DO NOT BELIEVE something as proof that I DO BELIEVE something.

Are you sane? Do you understand the English language?

You told me that not believing in god(s) was a belief,

so why do the same rules not apply to you? I'm actually following your line of reasoning here.

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You just do not get it, Jimmy. There is no switch...you apparently are not intellectually able to understand what is being said.

Like I told you earlier...you'd be much better off wading in the shallow end for a while...and then after you grow up, come join us here in the deeper end.

I might not be intellectually able. However, at least I know my own view-points and don't switch from one to the other like old-man Frank Apisa.

When that 22-yr-old JW woman lay dying in hospital, the conversation must have gone something like this-
DOCTORS- "You're dying"
WOMAN- "Can nothing be done?"
DOCTORS "Yes, we can save your life with a transfusion"
WOMAN- "No thanks, I might catch a fatal disease from it"
DOCTORS -" But you'll die anyway without one"
WOMAN -"Okay i'll die rather than have one"

Where's the logic in that?
It certainly seems to indicate that this threads title - 'Religious people are less intelligent than atheists' - is true in the case of JW's..

Another puzzling thing about JW's is that although they claim the OT bans blood transfusions, they choose to ignore this OT verse and are happy to eat sausages and bacon etc..
"The pig...is unclean for you..You must not eat their meat" (Lev 11:7/8)

I said that if you make an assertion...you bear the burden of proof for that assertion.

If you said, "I do not believe in gods"...I would not touch that. I do not believe in gods either.

What you must have said is, "I believe there are no gods"...which is a different thing.

But I am not sure.

Go back and find whatever it is you think was said...and link to it and we can discuss it that way.

I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT!

Not sure how many times I have to say that...BUT I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT.

There has been no switching on my side at all, Jimmy. You are trying to handle arguments you are not equipped for . If you want to continue doing it...along with the snideness...just do so. I'll be here for ya.

Neologist said:
1-Are you saying Orthodox Jews are still in a favorable position with God?
2- So humans are not creatures?
3- The Witness would object because it is a violation of God's law.
4- You stop calling defiled the things God has cleansed. . . (Acts 10:15)

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I said that if you make an assertion...you bear the burden of proof for that assertion.

If you said, "I do not believe in gods"...I would not touch that. I do not believe in gods either.

What you must have said is, "I believe there are no gods"...which is a different thing.

But I am not sure.

Go back and find whatever it is you think was said...and link to it and we can discuss it that way.

I would never word it that way. That doesn't even sound good when spoken aloud.

Perhaps you weren't wearing your bifocals when you read it.

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I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT!

Not sure how many times I have to say that...BUT I NEVER TOLD YOU THAT.

You did.

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There has been no switching on my side at all, Jimmy. You are trying to handle arguments you are not equipped for . If you want to continue doing it...along with the snideness...just do so. I'll be here for ya.

You've switched a total of 2 times now. We'll see if you make it to 3 or if you stick to it this time.

You may appreciate this:

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

When that 22-yr-old JW woman lay dying in hospital, the conversation must have gone something like this-
DOCTORS- "You're dying"
WOMAN- "Can nothing be done?"
DOCTORS "Yes, we can save your life with a transfusion"
WOMAN- "No thanks, I might catch a fatal disease from it"
DOCTORS -" But you'll die anyway without one"
WOMAN -"Okay i'll die rather than have one"

Where's the logic in that?
It certainly seems to indicate that this threads title - 'Religious people are less intelligent than atheists' - is true in the case of JW's..

The highlighted passage would not be the words of a Jehovah's Witness, though perhaps an educated non believer. The Witness would object because it is a violation of God's law.

3- Is God going to send everybody who has a transfusion to hell?

WOMAN- "No thanks, I'm delusional and believe an ancient fairy tale prohibits it". . . Much better...

The idea that ros can improve a Romeo post must be some kind of joke.

Romeo asked: Is God going to send everybody who has a transfusion to hell?
Neologist replied: Of course not...

Romeo asked: Is God going to send everybody who has a transfusion to hell?
Neologist replied: Of course not...

In that case why did the young JW woman refuse a transfusion and die if she'd have had nothing to lose by having one?

The idea that ros agrees with Romeo comes as no surprise.

I have never said anything of the sort...but I can see that the only way you can find peace with yourself is to pretend that I did.

So have a blast. No skin off my nose.

And no switching on my part.

You are a joy, Jimmy. I love ya, Buddy.