Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

Spendis response to my recommendation to read Neil Shubin's book


You really are a fraud.

What happens to the phenotype is, I assume, that it gets patented and possibly turned into cash like you explained a few days ago.

I believe Ill put you back on ignore because youre becoming purposely obtuse again. Youre obviously doing it just for the pitiable attention you crave. That's not worth wasting any further time with you. The conversation doesn't provide me with any satisfaction.

It does me. I would miss it if you do take the drastic action you purpose.

It is the hallmark of a good teacher that he is patient with intellectually challenged students.

The Texas Legislature is going to take up a final vote today. The vote will be "UP OR DOWN" whether to accept the Pearson Publishing Biology book that "Mentions the Theory of EVolution and Darwins "Origin of Species..."
Seems that dumbing down Biology is what Texas wants to be known for

I see. So your counterpoint to that spectacular and detailed demonstration of the functionality and success of interwoven scientific theories (evolution and geology to name just a few) is, "it's a coincidence".

Establishing separation from north-eastern liberals is more likely.

What success are you talking about? Where is the revival mechanics that converts 'the polymers' (as FM calls the organic matter) into living organisms?
When you take out a living tooth for example and repair it in the lab to its former glory ... and after that re-implant it back on the spot you may talk about beginnings of success, when you revive back a mammoth on the grounds of a DNA of a living cell found in the remains perhaps you may talk about modest success ... and when you understand what our conscience/intelligence is and how does it appear (out of nothing) upon birth and disappears in the Dimension X (after the death) ... and what it actually is ... you may start talking about having walked half-the-way to success.
Arranging fossil records - limited edition - into unique collections maybe is a success ... but to the numismatics.

You don't seem to have a mind that is open to multiple hypotheses do you?
Where does the concept f falsifiability fit in with your worldview? Is it even possible?
Or is it Faith over Truth?

I think that, no matter how compelling the evidence is,you aren't going to buy any of it.

But Heralds notion of truth is not the same as yours fm. When Dylan said that "There are no truths outside the Gates of Eden" he was only saying poetically what post-modern philosophers are saying. Which is, of course, subject to an infinite regress.

Hence one might say, might have to say, that truth is what corresponds to a person's reality. You are trying to persuade him, bullying sometimes, to accept your version of reality.

And you told us a few pages ago that it was money; lucre, gold, shekels, doubloons, ( not Euros), dollahs, checks, that are pulling your strings and not everybody wishes to, sensible though it is and it having my approval. It's probably why you find whales more intersting than fleas. Which they are not. Whales give a sense of coffers swelling don't they?

But Heralds notion of truth is not the same as yours fm. - spendi

Neither is Alice in Wonderland's.

The fact that they were able to find what they were looking for based on scientifically derived deductions.

None of what you are talking about in your last post was even in the video clip.

Did you watch the video clip or not? Your previous response was to the post I made with the Video so I just assumed that you were responding to it.

But the question has been asked recently whether truth or faith has a pragmatic advantage to society. Alice is not involved.

It has, as you might expect, gone unanswered. 3 or 4 times of asking. Assuming me being declared a pissed-up dickhead doesn't qualify as an answer.

A pragmatist says that truth is what works and, if you are aware of the real Wonderland you are actually in as compared to the basic human condition, you might allow that faith has been tested and truth has not.

There might be a run in the betting on an unraced horse but it has to win the race from traps to line just like in a horse race a 1000 years ago on the steppes.

There are no certainties in this stuff ed. It is not even certain that there are no certainties in this stuff. etc etc.

I could invent any number of scenarios in which God might make his presence felt but I had better not.

It has been answered, repeatedly. You have to want to understand before it can happen.

Where? I have not seen it.

Another question gone unanswered.

It is starting to look like it is not an oversight or an accident.

Where was the question about the evolutionary advantage of truth over faith answered? It's simple enough. To have insisted it was answered means that the link can be provided. Surely?

Go through these reams of pages. It is there repeatedly.

No it is not. I have taken particular notice because I asked it.

Link an answer eh?

There was no answer either to the question of why evolution is not a stochastic process. It was asserted that it wasn't but when the asserter was asked why it wasn't there was no answer.

That's scary, Ed. Is that what your teachers told you?