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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 05:53 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
* Don't forget to throw in "stochastic" and "to infinity" a few dozen times!
     'Stochastic' and 'Infinity' are trademarks and exclusively reserved by your fake theory. For further details see 'stochastic evolution' and 'infinite gravity of the Singularity'.
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 05:57 am
@Herald,
Let's stochastically look to infinity instead at your evidence-free to infinity alien/ILF/god-not-stochastic-god claim. Show is some stochastic evidence to infinity to support your stochastic claim that it's "plausible" to infinity. Laughing

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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 10:55 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Let's stochastically look to infinity instead at your evidence-free to infinity alien/ILF/god-not-stochastic-god claim.
     Wretch.
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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 01:16 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
You will find that the linear trend is almost exactly the same as the exponential trend.
     If you draw a line to approximate the data in the 1990s, all the data from 2000 to 2015 are above the line (polynomial of first degree), which means that the trend is worse than than that polynomial. Now you are arguing that it is polynomial of higher degree and not an exponent (a combinatorial explosion) yet - it doesn't matter. What matters is that this is the only planet that we have, and that the CO2 is increasing continuously without any end condition (there is nothing seen on the event horizon that can stop it) and you have no idea of how to stop it (we are not talking about recycling it yet). You cannot stop it: isn't that enough ... and it doesn't matter whether it is a polynomial of first degree or worse case scenario, and the fact that it is not a combinatorial explosion yet could not be any assuagement. What matters is that you have no idea how it could be fixed ... and whether it could be fixed at all ... and where we will go in that case scenario.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 03:37 pm
@Herald,
So, if you selectively ignore some of the data and only include the data that you think supports your argument then you reach the conclusion you already had made. Amazing how that works out for you.

Why would anyone need to approximate the data in the 1990s? Shouldn't we just use the actual data? Shouldn't we also use the data from the 1980s and the 1970s and the 1960s if we want to accurately graph what CO2 is doing. But as always, prior increases in CO2 are not indicative of the future CO2 increases. We can change the amount of CO2 released each year. Whether we will or not is another thing completely.
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2015 10:13 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
So, if you selectively ignore some of the data and only include the data that you think supports your argument then you reach the conclusion you already had made. Amazing how that works out for you.
     Perhaps you are envisioning yourself (by presenting a CO2 diagram from 1959 to 2005). I don't ignore any data. All the data are taken into consideration. I am showing that because you are falsifying the approximation function by drawing it as a straight line right through the data, without considering weight factors and limit points.
     Besides that there is a real feasibility for the polynomial to become at some stage a combinatorial explosion (not a joke) - there is CO2 in the rocks, which may be released if the temperature continues to rise, and if the acidity of the ocean proceeds as it is going at present, at some point the plankton may go into the Dimension X, and all the CO2 that is processed by it now to remain without 'facilities for CO2 recycling' and to start accumulating into the air. Thus the combinatorial explosion is not to be excluded at some point of time in case of continuous retarded behaviour and non-taking measures to put the processes under control and in predictable track.
     The only thing that can stop the CO2 is the money. The modern money mechanics of money as debt to be pronounced as lacking perspective, fake, unfair and destructive to the planet and money to be backed up the by energy- and eco-capacity - incl. facilities and methods to recycle CO2 into something safer and useful, like for example solar, wind and water power production, synthesis of methane fuel from recycling CO2 by solar energy, making NPPs on the Moon on Hellium 3 ... and supply somehow the energy 'down to the Earth', etc.
     The Nothing-Doing Case Scenario and the sweeping of the problems under the table and postponing them to the distant future is one of the worst, if not the Worst Case Scenario. Anyway.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2015 05:28 pm
Beats the hell out of envisioning whacked-out, nutty bullshit like this:

Herald wrote:

... my personal are God or some meta-intelligence (string theory) or s.th.; 30% another ILF, sending the designs on the Earth even through some form of teleportation or another form of encoded communication (it might have extinct already by the time the information has came here), and perhaps 25% of the Big Bang and the theory that we are made out of star dust (whatever this might mean) and fused with the time by the Dark Energy and Dark Matter....


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Herald
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2015 09:05 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Beats the hell out of envisioning whacked-out, nutty bullshit like this: ...
      I may not be able to explain how the Chef-de-Group of the Aliens has ended as a Pharaoh of Egypt into the Tomb of the Visitor, but you cannot explain that as well ... by your favourite Big Bang 'theory' and the 'Origin of Man and Sexual Selection'?
     ... and what are we going to do now: deny the facts ... and backup the denialism by a peer review, or what?
     ... and who lied you that in the capacity of a religious fanatic you are able to understand what is Agnosticism. Agnosticism is not lack of knowledge and 'uneducated' as you are trying to present it. Agnosticism claims that 'there is no enough knowledge to find the truth' which does not mean that there isn't enough knowledge to distinguish which 'peer reviewed theory' is fake, and which is absolute forgery.
     As a religious fanatic you should stay away from the open world and from Internet in particular, for they are only upsetting your self-conceit and self-sufficiency.
     BTW how did you come to know that you have the right to express aggression in other to convince whomever into your fake and unjustified beliefs ... that are most probably so awful and so criminal, that you personally are afraid to state them out explicitly and to announce them to the public space.
FBM
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2015 09:51 pm
@Herald,
I'll provide evidence for what I claim, not your red herrings and strawmen. I've told you over and over and over and over again that I have one claim: You don't have any evidence to support your teleporting alien/ILF/god-but-not-god-but-maybe-science-instead garbled mish-mash of mutilated logic. You have supported my claim by not providing any such evidence. You're trying to pretend that your claim was agnosticism, but a blind man can see through that ruse. "my personal are" is not an agnostic statement, nor was your claim made in an agnostic context. You exposed the extent of your wingnut denialism and inability to manage basic logic. Get used to it.

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Herald
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 12:03 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I've told you over and over and over and over again that I have one claim: You don't have any evidence to support your teleporting alien/ILF/god-but-not-god-but-maybe-science-instead garbled mish-mash of mutilated logic. You have supported my claim by not providing any such evidence
     You are totally deranged and detached fromthe reality. My claim is that the assumptions of God and of the Big Bang (which are actually one and the same due to the integrity of the Universe) are unknowable ... and you cannot present any evidence, whatsoever that they are knowable ... especially by fake and absolutely irrelevant quotes and tautology of the logical inference.
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 12:08 am
@Herald,
You have a shitload of whacked-out claims. I'm only referring to this one:

Herald wrote:

... my personal are God or some meta-intelligence (string theory) or s.th.; 30% another ILF, sending the designs on the Earth even through some form of teleportation or another form of encoded communication (it might have extinct already by the time the information has came here), and perhaps 25% of the Big Bang and the theory that we are made out of star dust (whatever this might mean) and fused with the time by the Dark Energy and Dark Matter....


Speaking of people lacking evidence, where's yours for this steaming pile of deranged crap? Laughing

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Herald
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 01:27 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
Speaking of people lacking evidence ...
... what about your trolling 'pieces of evidence' ... which are actually one and the same broken record?
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Herald
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 02:53 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I'll provide evidence for what I claim, not your red herrings and strawmen.
     From where is that mania for reeducation, coercive persuasion and thought reform so familiar to me: aren't you some rubbish from the mind control projects?
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 04:46 am
@Herald,
I can't even decipher that babble. Where's your evidence to support your claim and its alleged plausibility?
Herald
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 05:17 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I can't even decipher that babble.
     This is obvious. You are incompetent to talk at all on that theme (the existence of Aliens as intermediate intelligent life form) - and I don't want to talk on it ... and I don't know why you have chosen it at all. This quote that you cannot get rid of, is a super-marginal example of super-marginal hypotheses with schematic exemplary values. ... and it doesn't matter whether it is 'I' or 'you' - it is obviously at abstract and formal level.
     Here is a much more easy question to you: What is the relationship between Mind and Matter? The Matter can obviously exist without the Mind (even as 'dead DNA' - for further details see the Mammoth fossil), but where is your evidence that the Mind can exist without the Matter - as some religions are claiming about the after-life. ... and what makes a DNA living or dead forever? ... you have all the DNA of the extinct species, for example, and so far none of them has been revived. How does that happen in your theory of evolution driven by stochastic events on auto-pilot ... for my claim is that you just like me will never get knowing that but simply you cannot confess it is unknowable with the present day knowledge and available data.
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 05:40 am
@Herald,
Who cares? Why do you think it's plausibe to claim something like teleporting alien/ILF/god-but-maybe-science-thingies that have no evidential support and reject evidence-based science? Why choose the wingnut option? You think the aliens will teleport you to immortality? You that afraid of death?
Herald
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 10:30 pm
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
You think the aliens will teleport you to immortality?You that afraid of death?
     You may design straw-men as much as you like ... and 'prove them' as much as you like. How much is your IQ?
FBM
 
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Reply Mon 10 Aug, 2015 11:09 pm
@Herald,
Red herring. Where's the data for your invisible, teleporting alien/ILF/god-not-god thingies?
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FBM
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 12:00 am
Herald
 
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Reply Tue 11 Aug, 2015 01:19 pm
@FBM,
Why your IQ is a 'state secret' - it cannot be that bad?
 

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