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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 05:25 am
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
I'm not aware of any who are so gullible as to want any of that crap.
     You are the one that starts publishing 'that crap' and all of a sudden you are 'not aware' - how does that happen? BTW holistic medical science is a standard medicine - it is not alternative.


I challenge you to find one post in this entire website where I've "published that crap."



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FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 05:51 am
@Herald,
Busted...

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FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 06:01 am
*polite cough*

Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 09:46 am
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
RE: The Scams with Religion
There are various scammers ... in any field, incl in pharmacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofbYhH0jFM
Actually what is the question?
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 09:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Who created god?
     God has always existed - which is the next question?
cicerone imposter wrote:
PLEASE, prove to us that your god exists?
     Why? You haven't proved how the Big Bang has launched the Time, how the Big Bang has set up the Cesioum clock ... without the Cesium - why should I prove that the Intelligence of the Universe exists ... go to the mirror to see it.
cicerone imposter wrote:
It fits in the same category as superman, batman, and batwoman; all created by men.
      ... if you are curious to know Big Bang is there as well ... on the cover page.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 09:54 am
@Herald,
So, you equate scamming by pharmacies the same as scams by religions. Where does that leave you?

Quote:
scam
skam/Submit
nouninformal
1. a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
"an insurance scam"
synonyms: fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More
verb
verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1. swindle.
"a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
synonyms: swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 10:03 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
So, you equate scamming by pharmacies the same as scams by religions.
     What is the difference? Do you have the statistics how many of the users of viagra develop diabetes? If you want to experience yourself as medical cyber-police why don't you start verifying all the scam that is sold by e-mails? (perhaps you should be careful, for most of them are not even selling anything at all - they are simply assembling various botnets ... and some of the ransom-ware can send your personal files in the 'Dimension X' ... for ransom).
cicerone imposter wrote:
a dishonest scheme; a fraud
     We are not talking yet about the medications that are sold everywhere in the form of food additives ... and that have not passed any clinical trials at all. ... and what about the medications with forged clinical reports? ... and what about the three cancerogenic nanoplastics in the technically unchangeable oil of frying various starch foods in the establishments?
cicerone imposter wrote:
"a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
     This is also very interesting theme ... and most of it is based on the theory of natural selection - survival of the 'most cunning'.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 11:05 am
@Herald,
The difference is pharmaceutical companies can be sued. I don't take drugs unless my doctor prescribes them. I trust my doctor.
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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 11:45 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
So, you equate scamming by pharmacies the same as scams by religions.
     1. You could hardly call a criminal lab in the basement (full of rats and fleas) a 'pharmaceutical producer'.
     2. In the very same way you cannot call people that are talking anything to the population for money 'messengers of God'.
     3. The theme of this thread is not Scam and Scammers - if you want to talk on such theme you may open a new Thread 'Are the scammers on religious theme better than the scammers & easy makers in the other fields'. If you are curious to know one of the indicators for evaluating a scam is the amount at stake - in this sense the scammers that are aiming the Nobel Prize Committee for the amount of 1 MN are some of the best in the world.
     4. Do you have any explanation of how the Big Bang has launched the Time, or you are going to take another red herring out of the sleeve?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 12:25 pm
@Herald,
Criminal labs are illegal.
You're the one who brought up the subject of scams.

You are really nuts~!
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
You're the one who brought up the subject of scams.
     Or perhaps the FBM. It is amazing 'Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?' Why don't you go back to post No. 5 47 537 / 5 847 542 / 5 467 545 herein above to see who is the real nuts. You will never do that and do you know why - because this is a fellow-atheist and we the nuts hereby fellow-atheists should support each other even if this means distortion of the reality to infinity.
     Do you have any plausible explanation about how has the Big Bang set up the Time, or not?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:11 pm
@Herald,
You wrote on this page,
Quote:
There are various scammers ... in any field, incl in pharmacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofbYhH0jFM


You're pretty dumb; can't remember anything you wrote not that long ago.
Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
You wrote on this page.
     Why don't you simply answer the questions and discuss on the theme. Do you have any explanation of how the Big Bang has launched the Time?
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:25 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:
...Do you have any explanation of how the Big Bang has launched the Time?


How does your "personal 45% god-of-the-gaps" provide a better explanation than any of the scientific hypotheses about it?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:27 pm
@FBM,
Herald wrote,
Quote:
..Do you have any explanation of how the Big Bang has launched the Time?


Time is a human concept.
FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 02:34 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
RE: The Scams with Religion
There are various scammers ... in any field, incl in pharmacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofbYhH0jFM
Actually what is the question?


The accusation, not a question, was that I "published that crap" about holistic medicine, a topic I have yet to discuss in this thread.

FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 03:00 pm
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 03:00 pm
@FBM,
Quote:
The accusation, not a question, was that I "published that crap" about holistic medicine, a topic I have yet to discuss in this thread.


I bet you don't anything about 'holistic medicine'
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FBM
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 03:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Herald wrote,
Quote:
..Do you have any explanation of how the Big Bang has launched the Time?


Time is a human concept.


So is logic. Let's see if we can represent Herod's premise:

If BBT can't explain time,
then my "personal 45% god-of-the-gaps" is an equally strong hypothesis.

Fail.

In order to be an equally strong hypothesis, the "personal 45% god-of-the-gaps" must have equivalent supporting evidence, necessary inference, verifiability and ability to make testable predictions.

A gap in hypothesis A is not evidence for the strength of hypothesis B. Hence, "god of the gaps."

Simples.
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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 27 Dec, 2014 10:56 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Time is a human concept.
     Not exactly. It is the ability of the matter & space to self-organise and to re-organise themselves in a sequence of events, driven by some causality. Thus for example when you lit a Bengal fire stick the pyrotechnic mixture on the metal wire (Al & Mg powder, barium nitrate, dextrins, and ferro-oxide raspings) is burning and oxidizing slowly with some spectacular effect for around 3รท5 min, depending on the dryness of the stick, the thickness of the Bengal layer, the humidity of the air, the oxygen in the air, etc. All these processes are actually determined by strict causality - no matter how many Bengal fire sticks you may burn, they are burning in one and the same sequence of events, in almost one and the same way, for approximately one and the same time. All that is possible owing to the objective existence of the time component - it may be intangible, it may be immaterial, but it is obviously and objectively existing. If the Time had not existed the Bengal fire sticks could not have burned - all that processes are happening owing to the function of time and the objective existence of the time component.
     Yes, in our understanding of the world Time is an abstract dimension (or variable, or characteristics, or call it as you wish), but it has objective representation in the real world and that is the ability of space, particles, matter, field, energy, light, etc. to be driven by causality and to change in compliance with preset arrangement ... that we are accustomed to call 'changes with the time'. The very Existence of anything itself is a function of time - by Def. Existence is everything that IS - 'to be' is a verb, in other words representing a process, hence the Existence itself is by definition a process - an immanent function of the Time component, from where follows that nothing can exist without the Time component, from where it has been derived, and from where follows that only Nothing can exist without time, for Nothing is defined as the non-existence of anything.
     In other words your favorite Big Bang (if has ever happened - we are not talking about any creation yet) could not have had the Assumptions (the Gravitational Continuum) to have had created whatsoever, for there is no way for the Gravitational Continuum (which is a standard field) to have had existed without a Time component - before the Big Bang to have launched any Time - that I am not going to frighten you, but you will not be able to understand and to explain to yourself for lifetime.
 

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