Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@Quehoniaomath,

sad, hes gone totally barking.

@farmerman,

You're just noticing?

@FBM,

It has been a matter of degree but his latest "phase" is the mindless repetition of one phrase several dozen times. This becomes his post and I suppose he gets some personal gratification over his "debating skills".

Perhaps people more skilled in the healing arts can provide input as to what corner Quahog has gone around.

I think hes ready for restraint.

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@farmerman,

Not much different with Herod, but at least he doesn't yell so much. It just takes a little translation and 99% of his posts are the same:

God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps!...ad nauseum. Rolling Eyes

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@FBM,

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@FBM,

     This animation with the donkey that you are posting is neither evidence to the assumptions of the Big Bang, nor the origin of water on the Earth - just in case you count it as such.
     I republished it as a question by default: What is that suppose to mean as an evidence on the post ... and in what way it is contributing to the clarification of the issues?
     In a reply you published some other anime that I am not even going to comment.
     Actually the donkey anime comprises a valid cyber-evidence for affinity to sadism and unrealised mania for aggression ... which is out of the scope of this thread.

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@Herald,

Oh yea, but your bullshit claims about "the Big Bang" and the origins of water on this planet as valid points of discussion in a thread about evolution are within the scope of this thread? The scope of this thread appears, in your eyes, to be nothing but ipse dixit claims on your part, for which you won't even discuss evidence, and the constant denial of any evidence presented by anyone who doesn't agree with you. You're pathetic.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

It just takes a little translation and 99% of his posts are the same

Do you have a formal model of the assumtions of the Big Bang 'theory' (in not more than 25 words): energy? space? fields? momentum? mass? time? What about the origin of the water on the Earth - how can you postulate any theory for the creation/appearance of the Life on the Earth without having any idea of the assumptions for that - 65% of our body is 'good water' (with specific properties, purity, and pH, etc.) and you claim that you know everything about Life without having the vaguest idea of how has all that clean water come down to the Earth ... in industrial quantities ... and without any function of stochastic distribution in the SS. Do you have any idea of how much should be the water on Mars, for example, if our water has come from stochastic hits on Earth of icy asteroids?
There is more: what is for example 'several seconds after the Big Bang' supposed to mean ... when you have never calibrated your time-measuring system? How exactly has the Big Bang switched on the Time (the sequence of events happening with some causality)? How exactly the Big Bang has switched on the Cesium clock (without having Cesium at hand) ... and why should it switch on any Time (create any causality and sequence of the events happening in the newly formed Universe) in the first place? No anime accepted.

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You are utterly obsessed with "the Big Bang." Can you explain what that has to do with evolution--in 25 or fewer coherent words?

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@Quehoniaomath,

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haha!

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

You are utterly obsessed with "the Big Bang." Can you explain what that has to do with evolution--in 25 or fewer coherent words?

The Big Bang (if it has ever happened) is the 'mastermind' of everything and the origin of all origins: it is the assumptions for the stellar evolution, the causality for the evolution of the chemical elements and even for the appearance & evolution of the life (on Earth for now). The Big Bang is the master-key of every keyhole - and it is a pity that it is really lacking the assumptions for being so.
The Big Bang is the first plate of the domino - fallen on arrangement.

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

This animation with the donkey that you are posting is neither evidence to the assumptions of the Big Bang,...

Oh, suddenly interested in evidence, eh, Professor "Personal 45% God." Laughing

I've given your horseshit ideas more attention than they merit already. Piss off, wingnut. Educate yourself. I've got my own students. At least they're able and willing to learn.

Enjoy playing with your unimaginably intelligent and perfectly sane (no, really!) friends:

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@Herald,

Herald wrote:

FBM wrote:
It just takes a little translation and 99% of his posts are the same
Do you have a formal model of the assumtions of the Big Bang 'theory' (in not more than 25 words): energy? space? fields? momentum? mass? time? What about the origin of the water on the Earth - how can you postulate any theory for the creation/appearance of the Life on the Earth without having any idea of the assumptions for that - 65% of our body is 'good water' (with specific properties, purity, and pH, etc.) and you claim that you know everything about Life without having the vaguest idea of how has all that clean water come down to the Earth ... in industrial quantities ... and without any function of stochastic distribution in the SS. Do you have any idea of how much should be the water on Mars, for example, if our water has come from stochastic hits on Earth of icy asteroids?
There is more: what is for example 'several seconds after the Big Bang' supposed to mean ... when you have never calibrated your time-measuring system? How exactly has the Big Bang switched on the Time (the sequence of events happening with some causality)? How exactly the Big Bang has switched on the Cesium clock (without having Cesium at hand) ... and why should it switch on any Time (create any causality and sequence of the events happening in the newly formed Universe) in the first place? No anime accepted.

English translation: God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps!...ad nauseum. Grow the **** up, dimwit.

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Both sides in this "debate" are what each is accusing the other of being...illogical.

The ONLY way anyone can logically assert there is no intelligent design...is if that person can logically assert there is no GOD. And since there is no logical way to assert "there is no GOD"...any assertion that there is no intelligent design...IS illogical.

The other side is asserting there is no evidence that "evolution" has occurred...by simply dismissing the massive amount of evidence that has been presented indicating that the process, in some form, has been occurring.

IF there is a GOD...and IF the GOD intelligently designed life...the method IT used is currently being uncovered by scientists...in their investigations of what we term "evolution."

IF that process was not GOD initiated (something we probably never will know)...it just WAS NOT.

Arguing with someone denying "the process" (the way some of these guys are denying it)...is probably the most illogical thing occurring in this thread.

Just sayin'!

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@Frank Apisa,

blow it out your capacious rectal orifice Frnk. You've ignored what weve said about "evidence" from day one.
Go sit with Quahog he doesn't listen either.
As I said "We conclude" we don't pontificate (like you).

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

blow it out your capacious rectal orifice Frnk. You've ignored what weve said about "evidence" from day one.
Go sit with Quahog he doesn't listen either.
As I said "We conclude" we don't pontificate (like you).

I do not pontificate, FM.

I have no idea of what you mean that I have "ignored what weve said about 'evidence' from day one."

I most assuredly have not.

In any case, both sides of this issue, as I said, are (at least in part) illogical.

I suppose you will pretend to be ignoring me after this question, but here goes anyway:

What specifically about my last post do you disagree with...and why?

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

The other side is asserting there is no evidence that "evolution" has occurred...by simply dismissing the massive amount of evidence that has been presented indicating that the process, in some form, has been occurring.

What 'massive amount of evidence' - you have no assumptions to construct the theory and no evidence for the assumptions. The 'massive amount of evidence' is a history record of life on the Earth - only this and nothing else - there is no evidence of any evolution out there, absolutely none.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps! God of the gaps!

Enough is enough - do you have a plausible theory for the appearance of the water on the Earth, or not? ... in no more than 25 words, and without any anime & irrelevant references , if possible.

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@Herald,

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Enough is enough - do you have a plausible theory for the appearance of the water on the Earth, or not? ... in no more than 25 words, and without any anime & irrelevant references , if possible.

I know the answer to that one ----- NOPE! Wink

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

You've ignored what weve said about "evidence" from day one.

FM, you have no verifiable piece of any evidence about the assumptions of the Big Bang (with few exceptions, perhaps that are based on various logical inferences, which you and your followers don't acknowledge as evidence) - what we are actually talking about?

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