Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

@MontereyJack,

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Oh, pardon me, ONLY a mere 800. That really makes a meaningless difference, doesn't it?

yep it does. so quote properly, thank you.

Now, what is it you don't get?

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Welll, basically, why you believe what is obviously a groundless conspiracy theory is real.

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@MontereyJack,

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Welll, basically, why you believe what is obviously a groundless conspiracy theory is real.

Nope, you may think it is groundless, but let's see, you haven't reseached any of this and dismiss it by reflex action? Close?
very rational indeed.

pfffff

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@MontereyJack,

What Q might mean, Jack, is that everything partakes of faith to some degree because logical objectivity, when taken to it's limits results in absurdity and dysfunction.

The simple fact that most people stick to the diffuse greyness involved in the middle ground, in order to get by, and simply use certain words in conversation, presumably for effect, does not alter such a philosophical principle.

All my difficulties on A2K stem from my taking logical objectivity further than the average person is prepared to put up with. Not that I go anywhere near the limits.

The objectivity on these threads might be justifiably compared to that of a cat on a hot tin roof.

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@spendius,

cats done go on hot tin roofs. They are too smart. Reading all sorts of mindless fraudulently evidenced conspiracy crap is something that only the gamma ninuses would do.
Whats worse is believing these idiots are in "touch with something profound" . Quahog is n easy touch for any CONSPIRACY, even those that have been sufficiently debunked.

In that respect, Quahog is a lot like gungasnake ( I originally thought that that Quahog was gungas "nom de spume"

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@spendius,

Take for example the expression "Hottie". Which is what Dr. Hfuhruhurr was searching for in The Man With Two Brains and he rejected the limit when it was very briefly acted out by the Mad Scientist, who kept a range of Hotties in suspension in glass jars. The limit was in a back room which is why it was necessary for Dr. Alfred Necessiter, played by David Warner, to mimic it. Gesture drag. And excellently brought off and losing nothing by its brevity.

It's a crazy world Jack as one might expect when well off people have nothing of any importance to do.

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@farmerman,

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cats done go on hot tin roofs

I was merely being fanciful fm in relation to my post which you are replying to. I was referring to the play by Mr Williams of that name and got to wondering if he had meant the impossibility of objectivity. And that the cool cats were having themselves on. It is the sort of subject literary men are apt to play around with.

I find it hard to believe that the evening meal that was placed on the table for me just now is for real. As a mode of chomping through the nutrient bed it was ridiculous. Absurd even.

Atheists would still be on bananas and any ground nuts they could grub up. Protein from the fur of their companions.

Who cares whether Q is a lot like Gunga. It is a rather safe thing to say considering the amazing number, and range, of their biological similarities and which you and I share as well.

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@spendius,

I know. He needed an analogy and he had a limited pallette . I always preferred Ashley Judd's 'Maggie"

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@farmerman,

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He needed an analogy and he had a limited pallette .

What is your version of the analogy. Had you had an inkling of my version you surely would not express the certainties you do.

Dylan also claimed to have sold out to ladies' garments and you have often taken me to task for showing leanings in that direction.

It is the garments you know. Leopold Bloom is not called Bloom for nothing. Bloomers. Geddit? Schopenhauer, Ted Hughes and ol' Henry did without the garments. As have others. As I mentioned.

Science at its limit is absurd. Not that the limit will ever be tested because (that word again which is rare in your posts) it will be stopped in its tracks before it gets onto the lower slope of the asymptote which it is presently only eying up.

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@farmerman,

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and he had a limited pallette

I hardly think, fm, that you are qualified to make such a judgement. Your palette has only one colour--mid brown.

And a budding artist ought to be able to spell palette.

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@spendius,

Ooh - fm made a typo. Surprised

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@spendius,

what you know about Tenn Williams can be fit on a small postcard.
Im not a poor speller, Im just an indifferent writer .

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@edgarblythe,

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Ooh - fm made a typo.

The claque bleats. That was no typo. fm has produced thousands of typos I have let go without comment.

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@farmerman,

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what you know about Tenn Williams can be fit on a small postcard.
Im not a poor speller, Im just an indifferent writer .

What I know about TW can be written on the back of a postage stamp with a bill poster's brush.

But in my fanciful speculation I might have hit upon the one essential thing to know. That he thought that those who witter about objectivity to impress uneducated folks hardly dare allow their feet to touch the ground.

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@farmerman,

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GMO does NOT mean Frankenfood. Sex is GMOing

Can you prove this - that manipulating the DNA (without knowing what you are doing) is not Frankenfood.

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I will stipulte that placing a Bt gene in the specific chromosome of a plants "organizing matrix" , then yes that's a Frankenfood.

This is Frankenfood of second order, perhaps.

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But almost everything done to develop a special hybrid - seedless grapes ...

The first question is: 'What people like FM are doing to eliminate the seeds?' and the next question is: 'How can I produce grape seed oil if the grapes has no seeds'

farmerman wrote:

In plant breeding, wide hybridization crosses can result in small shrunken seeds which indicate that fertilization has occurred, however the seed fails to develop.

FM, I have only one question here - do you know at all what you are doing at all?

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

Welll, basically, why you believe what is obviously a groundless conspiracy theory is real.

1. 'Conspiracy theory' includes 'groundless' by definition - one doesn't need to add this as an argument.

2. Conspiracy (civil), an agreement between persons to deceive, mislead, or defraud others of their legal rights, or to gain an unfair advantage
This is happening all the time ... everywhere in the world. Where is the theory (implausible hypothesis) here?

3. Conspiracy (criminal), an agreement between persons to break the law in the future, in some cases having committed an act to further that agreement
This also happens in reality. For further details see the Organised Crime.

Conspiracy (political), the overthrow of a government
This can be observed as well.

In order for a conspiracy to be a theory (groundless claim) it has to be impossible in the real world. However the evidences show that it is not only possible, but also frequently met.

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@Herald,

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I SAID
In plant breeding, wide hybridization crosses can result in small shrunken seeds which indicate that fertilization has occurred, however the seed fails to develop.

to which Herald responded
FM, I have only one question here - do you know at all what you are doing at all?

YEp, Im quite competent at plant hybridization,What do you want to know? Are you not aware that hydridizing can result in "sexless" varieties or 'male only" varieties?
Think about asparagus or navel oranges.
Now how do you think auch plants are propogated? by embryo rescue nd air layring and other means of grafting from a hybrid onto candidate tree.

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'How can I produce grape seed oil if the grapes has no seeds'

are you this dense really? If you would use a seedless grape variety to make grape seed oil, you would be waiting around a really long time now woulnt you? SO you've never heard of seedless varieties?
Do you even go into a produce market? Does your mother do all the shopping?

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@farmerman,

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YEp, Im quite competent at plant hybridization,What do you want to know?

Why do the bees avoid entirely the Frankenfooded cherry blossoms? What is that they "don't like" in it ... if it is perfectly valid food, as you claim.

farmerman wrote:

Are you not aware that hydridizing can result in "sexless" varieties or 'male only" varieties?

... and how will you create a brand new variety of these ... aha, by cloning, but unfortunately the evolution does not treat the question with cloning of the newly 'developed' species. So you will have to write an Annex to the Theory of Evolution.

farmerman wrote:

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'How can I produce grape seed oil if the grapes has no seeds'
are you this dense really? If you would use a seedless grape variety to make grape seed oil, you would be waiting around a really long time now woulnt you? SO you've never heard of seedless varieties?

You didn't understand the question. If the grapes misses the storage for essential oil in its metabolism scheme, how can you guarantee that this is 'real grapes'?

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@spendius,

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Ooh - fm made a typo.

The claque bleats. That was no typo. fm has produced thousands of typos I have let go without comment.

I would like to comment it.
This is not a typo, but sooner looks like dysgraphia ... or it may simply mean that FM does not have Google Chrome installed (for it has in-built spell-checker in PHP for this site).

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@Herald,

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