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Intelligent Design vs. Casino Universe

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:36 pm
@Herald,
The term GMO is always getting a bad rap. Almost everything that develops a hybrid is a GMO. We use a GMO technique called Embryo Rescue. (See below). Suppose you want a seedless grape, you have to do an embryo rescue because (if your hybrid cross is good --There AINT GONNA BE ANY GRAPES WITH SEEDS TO PLANT.
GMO does NOT mean Frankenfood. Sex is GMOing

I will stipulte that placing a Bt gene in the specific chromosome of a plants "organizing matrix" , then yes that's a Frankenfood . But almost everything done to develop a special hybrid(seedless grapes, skinless cucumbers, male only asparagus, seedless oranges). That's all done by embryo rescue. Its been going on for the last century and I think youre a bit obsessed with being deathly afraid of your fruits , veggies, and milk.

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Embryo rescue is one of the earliest and successful forms of in-vitro culture techniques that is used to assist in the development of plant embryos that might not survive to become viable plants. Embryo rescue plays an important role in modern plant breeding, allowing the development of many interspecific and intergeneric food and ornamental plant crop hybrids. This technique nurtures the immature or weak embryo, thus allowing it the chance to survive. Plant embryos are multicellular structures that have the potential to develop into a new plant. The most widely used embryo rescue procedure is referred to as embryo culture, and involves excising plant embryos and placing them onto media culture. Embryo rescue is most often used to create interspecific and intergeneric crosses that would normally produce seeds which are aborted. Interspecific incompatibility in plants can occur for many reasons, but most often embryo abortion occurs In plant breeding, wide hybridization crosses can result in small shrunken seeds which indicate that fertilization has occurred, however the seed fails to develop. Many times, remote hybridizations will fail to undergo normal sexual reproduction, thus embryo rescue can assist in circumventing this problem.
Herald
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:39 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
That is demonstrated in the fossil record quite nicely.

The interpretations of those facts by the things that you are trying to attach to them are so loose that I am not even going to comment this.

farmerman wrote:
do you function in the real world? or do you continually bark like this?

FM, this is the real world here ... any information that matches events or amateur performances from the objective reality is actually mapping of that reality. Our beliefs (no matter whether in money-changing or in usury or in something else) are also part of the real world.
I can ask you the very same question: can any process (if any) of your mind-blowing interpretations of the functions, lost in the fossil records, function and be reproduced eventually in the real world?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:40 pm
@Herald,
whats a nonotoxin? is that a toxin we shouldn't play with? Isnt the word toxin explicate ?

Sometimes you just make up **** and run with it.

Im till waiting for what is a SI? If itd be sulfur Iodide itd probably be SI2, SI4 or SI6, so Im guessing not that. AS for Sports Illustrated. I don't see much biology in there (except for the Swim Suit edition)
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:41 pm
@Herald,
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There is no fatal system error in our ID - the fatal system error is sooner in the emergence of the big bang and the evolutionary interpretation of the things intended to shower up the conscience of the GMO and nonoplstics apologetics
I think we have a winner folks.
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Herald
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:45 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
whats a nonotoxin? is that a toxin we shouldn't play with? Isnt the word toxin explicate ?

Operating (incl. making changes) at molecular and sub-molecular level.

farmerman wrote:
Sometimes you just make up **** and run with it.

Write in Google: nanotoxicology wiki

farmerman wrote:
Im till waiting for what is a SI?

If you cannot interpret this by the context you are not at a level to understand the other information.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jun, 2014 08:50 pm
@Herald,
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If you cannot interpret this by the context you are not at a level to understand the other information.
You are obviously not a native English speaker. Your intentional word usage is really funny sometimes (I often shoot words in as puns or little jokes but you seem to think your crap mean something). Your last sentence that I highlighted was such an example. It is meaningless. SO, why not just tell me what SII is and stop being so damned childish with your implied nyah nyahs.
Its an acronym that I see no contextual connectivity.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 04:36 am
@Herald,
farmerman, I've always thought SI was Sports Illustrated. LOL
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
how about being confronted with nonotoxins?
These must really be badasses.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 06:46 am
@farmerman,
Well, the 'no-no' tells it all! LOL
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Herald
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 12:47 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Your intentional word usage is really funny sometimes

This means nothing as logical argument. Funny really may mean some said nonsense, but can also mean inability to understand what you have been said. Saying that s.th. is funny or serious could not be an argument of any kind ... even irrational.

farmerman wrote:
It is meaningless.

... or perhaps you don't have enough IQ to understand it – it is one of the two.

farmerman wrote:
SO, why not just tell me what SII is and stop being so damned childish with your implied nyah nyahs.

Definitely no.
1. It has beautiful context, so if you follow at all what it is saying and you understand it, the abbreviation is pretty obvious: 'The Hg is reabsorbed by the SIs within the body and the body cannot get rid of it.'
2. If you don't understand this the other part of the text is absolute noise to you – you don't need it, FM. Besides that it has no evidences in the rocks rocks of the right type.
3. This thread is not about mercury detox, which is high flight in medical science and with which usually deal the MDs, rather than an IT explaining it to a geologist, whose hobby is medical science.
If you are interested in Hg detox read the classics.
Write in Google: mercuty detoxification protocol ... and trust the professionals there.
4. This was just a super marginal example to show you how much you don't understand what you are talking about when presenting lectures on the evolution and its fossil record super-evidences.
5. You don't quote it properly. Instead of SIs you quote SII, which in the event of abbreviations is inevitable critically fatal error of the interpretation. The mocking there, thanslucent through the intentional inaccuracy of the quoting, reveals that you don't need that meaning at all, and that the only intention of this 'request' is to get some competitive advantage in the discussion and to demonstrate the dominance and supremacy of your (pseudo)scientific worldview.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:26 pm
@Herald,
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trust the professionals


You're having us on H!!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:31 pm
@Herald,
I was a chemist before I was a geologist (with a specialty in REE mining geochem), I must say that most of your "chemtalk" Is nonsensical. So live with it.
If you cannot be civil, play with Quahog, hes more your level.

Im sorry that you cannot understand my typos. Id explain my spelling errors but Id rather not. So, where do you go from here?. Are you going to continue preening for whoever is reading your tuff (or else you don't care that much of what you say is just junque).

I don't have a single idea why you even brought mercury into the conversation other than that youre "reciting " again (and again and again).


PS, Im gonna leave you, I got a PM that Im not getting anywhere with you. SO, youre on yer own bunky.

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or perhaps you don't have enough IQ to understand it –
Or perhaps you don't have sufficient IQ to convey the thought properly. The smarter people are, the easier they can make stuff sound. Did you know that?
You've dismissed all and every piece of evidence anyone poses befor you, that's a ssign of a coward, know that? You avoid any rel discussion by all of your side steps.

Ive asked youa long time ago about how convergent evolution may be a great "techy" argument over ID. but you seem to not want to grab and go. Are you afraid that Ill somehow use it negatively on your worldview?




Herald
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 09:31 pm
@farmerman,
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I don't have a single idea why you even brought mercury into the conversation

No problems, I can remind you.

FM, post No. 5,698,775
"... anyone can have an opinion about anything, it takes neither skill nor training. However, if you want to APPLY your opinions, you better have some training. I venture to say that, with my own scientific worldview directing my education and experience, Ive probably made waaay more return for my clients and my own interests than you are able. "

... "Anybody can be at your level, it takes many years of larnin and workin to get to mine."
BTW larnin without the E and G and workin without the G are extremely high level to achieve.

FM, post No. 5,698,961
"Being able to function in the technology without that derived knowledge often shows up with "diviners" and what are called "powwow shamen" in our country. Such frauds are always asked for "their opinions" by rural newspaper publishers and , of course , the frauds are always glad to provide same , often with gentle reproof of 'so called experts ', etc."

Your idea was that you are great expert with even greater worldview 'being able to function in the technology with derived knowledge (as the suggestion states)', and the Hg argument came to show you that you are neither such great super-expert in evolution (for you cannot even understand elementary statements about the metabolism of the body), nor have that 'derived knowledge' for you haven't even heard about nanoplastics (acrylamide in fried starch) and Hg in the HFCS, notwithstanding that you may provide any consultations on anything.
What is more, on the grounds of your 'larnin' from chemistry in the grammar school in the beginning of the prior century you claim that what I have found on Internet about nanoplastics is not only 'I must say that most of your "chemtalk" Is nonsensical. So live with it.', but you even denied the existence of the nanoplastics as a concept ... and I had to quote a reference to Google search, which BTW with your great abilities to derive knowledge from everything (on the grounds of your self-assessment without evidences) you should be able to guess personally. Anyway.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 07:35 am
Hey, Farmer,have you seen the thread Quahog started hwere he thinks he's "proved" that the Pope is initiated into the "NinthCircle" of Satanic rites by child sacrifice, when he's elected. And that Irish nuns were involved in Sata;nic dismemberment and decapitation of almost 1800 babies. And that the British royal family hunts and kills naked children, running them throuigh the forest? He may have surpassed gungasnak as the resident loony and conspiracy theorist, hard tho that may be to believe. The sewage content of a2k just went up markedly http://able2know.org/topic/247237-1#post-5700676
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 08:27 am
@MontereyJack,
JUMPIN J H CHRIST. I knew that Quahog was gonna reveal some deep secrets of the pentimento of civilizations and religion .
But I also thought he was just bat ****.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 08:41 am
@Herald,
whatever you think. Ill go along with. In America we sometimes misspell words just for "fun" (n; 'mirthful sport or diversion'). "Larnin" is a word that was often used by a youthful character from Mark Twain, an individual named "Huckleberry Finn". Twain was fond of inserting"dialectal" words into his writing to make a point about how the rural folks talked among themselves. If it went over your head ,I wouldn't have called attention to the colloquialism since all you've accomplished is to "dispell all doubts" (another Twainism)
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 08:47 am
@MontereyJack,
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Hey, Farmer,have you seen the thread Quahog started hwere he thinks he's "proved" that the Pope is initiated into the "NinthCircle" of Satanic rites by child sacrifice, when he's elected. And that Irish nuns were involved in Sata;nic dismemberment and decapitation of almost 1800 babies. And that the British royal family hunts and kills naked children, running them throuigh the forest? He may have surpassed gungasnak as the resident loony and conspiracy theorist, hard tho that may be to believe. The sewage content of a2k just went up markedly http://able2know.org/topic/247237-1#post-5700676


800 not 1800

please quote correctly.

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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 09:08 am
Oh, pardon me, ONLY a mere 800. That really makes a meaningless difference, doesn't it?
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 09:45 am
@MontereyJack,
And it was only first offense for the pope.
Where do all these clowns go to study their lunacy? Is there a "STANFORD" of woo woo ?

farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jun, 2014 09:48 am
@farmerman,
HELLO < MY NAME IS QUAHOG AND ILL BE YOUR INSTRUCTOR TODAY

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpxXy5sdcHzAJnpBZ8LbQ9O8WzxMgm3wAR3_vxV0L3my73IPS6oA
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