morality, drugs, existence

or the mind erroneously thinks it has limits,

zero contradictions, other than the idiotic one that 'nothing exists so you shouldn't talk'. hahahah so lame.

i DO NOT THINK i have arrived at anything worthwhile

i 100% believe in all my own concepts - up to the level of concepts and beliefs existing. everything i say i stand by fully on the level of the appearing reality. i am only saying that i also look beyond this apparent reality

i accept 100% the appearance of myself. i accept it as an appearance, as it is. you assume it as reality as part of an intellectually flawed assumption made by most of humanity.

i will explain how it is actually an involuntary process after you attempt to prove your own individual control over imagination

i have plenty of evidence, first the entire philosophy of nonduality which has thousands of texts available. secondly, i am offering experiential evidence, which is that consciousness can know itself as infinite through introspection.

Take me on a trip upon your magic swirlin' ship
My senses have been stripped, my hands can't feel to grip
My toes too numb to step, wait only for my boot heels
To be wanderin'
I'm ready to go anywhere, I'm ready for to fade
Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way
I promise to go under it.

More likely, some weak minds erroneously believe their are limitless, but that's just an illusion...

because of course, for the mind to be able to intuitively perceive its own limits, it would have to wander on both sides of those limits, and that's by definition impossible.

The best one can do is derive one's mind's limits from logic or experience, not from intuition or self-awareness.

Nah, what you were saying is that I cannot use concepts to prove anything since they are only worthless concepts, but YOU of course can perfectly well use them concept to keep talking ad nauseam of the worthlessness of all concepts… So facile.

That’s the core of the issue, isn’t it? So let’s cut the chase. What is the difference between reality and appearance, in your little system where everything is appearance?

I'm afraid I tend to the squeamish side.

i will explain how it is actually an involuntary process after you attempt to prove your own individual control over imagination

But your explanation will be involuntary, and hence worthless.

And duality has thousands of text ‘proving’ it too... That’s no evidence, that’s just another dude’s opinion. Get real.

Since when is introspection illusion-proof? Since when do we discover the truth through introspection? And why do you trust introspection so much, when you don’t trust anything else???

You fell victim of your own wishes. Just because you see something with your mind’s eye doesn’t mean it’s true. The truth is that our mental spaces are TOTALLY and TRAGICALLY separated from one another.

We are individuals, even if we hate it. We are trapped in our mental space, and we’re all alone in there. This truth is unbearable for the weakest minds, so they seek solace in illusions such as God, “the universe as mind” or the one global soul, or nirvana whatever…

Hey, CM.

First of all...if you actually deal with I write rather than your...unusual...renderings of what is written...

...you would realize that I have taken exception to very little of what you GUESS about REALITY.

Your guesses about REALITY are essentially as good as anyone else's guesses...and you certainly are free to make your guesses.

You have a tendency to go too far...to present your guesses as REVELATION...and to demean anyone who takes issue with your revelation. But that happens with some people...and most of us here in A2K are willing to sidestep it...unless the individual becomes as belligerent has you have become.

When that happens...someone almost always steps up to play with the belligerent. In this instance...there have been several having fun with you. I have been among them.

Actually, my position on the true nature of the REALITY of existence is identical with yours.

I do not know the true nature of the REALITY of existence...and according to what you say every once in a while...neither do you.

The major difference between us is that you have made guesses about it...and despite your protestations to the contrary...you have wedded yourself to those guesses and now consider them almost incontestable.

I prefer to make my main theme be an acknowledgement of the fact that I do not know what the REALITY is...other than whatever it IS...it IS.

You'll carry on trying to make your guesses seem "a step beyond" for a while.

I'll be here for you.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. they are words. the conceptual meanings of the words 'reality' and 'appearance' is very different for most people, such as yourself. for me, i actually see no difference, i experience no difference. why does this bother you?

please find me a single text 'proving' duality.

i don't think introspection is illusion proof, [...] i don't trust introspection in any way, there is nothing to trust. my statement was that 'consciousness can know itself as infinite through introspection.' that is a personal opinion about my own experience. i don't necessarily DISTRUST my own opinion either, but i have no absolute trust in it as you imply.

you see the truth of individuality as 'unbearable'.

If there is no difference, to you, between illusion and reality, why do you keep saying that "this or that is not real, it's an illusion"? That category / ying-yang pair / dimension has no meaning to you, period. Forget about illusion. Everything is equally real.

For me of course it's different. I've done some prestidigitation when I was a kid and I can still cheat at poker. I still know what lying means. I KNOW by experience that there is an important difference between illusion and reality...

Please find me a single text 'proving' non-duality.

Ok so you have no certitude about your opinions or experience, no clear decisive evidence.

Good. You could be entirely wrong about the mind being infinite, for instance, since you base this on a source, introspection, which you don't trust.

You have therefore no good reason to assume the mind is infinite. Nor any good reason to assume dualism is false or wrong in any way.

No, I said SOME people find it unbearable. I meant you mainly, in the context.

everything is real too

you are just choosing to be narrow minded.

we all know that within the appearing reality, truths and falsehoods appear. so if you cheat at poker, then obviously within the context of the game, you did something against the rules. you know by experience that you DEFINE a difference between illusion and reality.

and you also know by experience that the definition is not based on any actual evidence.

i have HUGE reason to assume the mind is infinite, the absolute entirety of my experience. of course, i cannot trust the experience 100%, because it is all part of the mind experience. but, up to the level that one can trust something, lets say 99.9999%, i trust that the mind is infinite, based on my own experience.

i said there is probably no text about 'duality' because it is not really a discussed 'topic' in this world, as far as i know. if so, then please show me.

But the serious point I was trying to make is that in your philosophy, it can't be ethically wrong because all rules and words and stuff are all philosophically worthless anyway.

No definition is based on 'evidence'. Definitions are all in part arbitrary constructs. But I sound like fresco now.