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UK on Syria: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"

 
 
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:15 pm
@izzythepush,
..and the UK. Do you like this democratically elected politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feiglin#Banned_from_Britain

I personally don't like him. So is it Canada, Egypt and the UK? What a lovely trio...
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:19 pm
@izzythepush,
Why is everything a fight with you? I'm not trying to score any points. I honestly feel bad for the city of Boston - regardless of who's responsible for the attack. I just think it's an important point. It would be something like saying that the IRA is British.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:27 pm
@0bserver,
He'd stir up trouble, his presence would not be conducive to the public good. Gorgeous George is a good old fashioned socialist, standing up for the downtrodden. And he's got a sense of humour.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:30 pm
@0bserver,
Everything a fight? The minute you discovered I was British it's been one Anglophobic comment after another. This thread is testament to your Anglophobia. All I know about you is that you love Israel and hate Britain, and you expect me to get all chummy after that. You're having a laugh.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:32 pm
@0bserver,
0bserver wrote:
I just think it's an important point. It would be something like saying that the IRA is British.


That would be wrong because the IRA is a nationalist group, their aim is a united Ireland, not a Catholic superstate ruled by the Pope.
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:35 pm
@izzythepush,
I think most Chechens just want a separate state from Russia. But there are of course Islamic extremists who want a Caliphate or whatever.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:38 pm
@0bserver,
I don't know what most Chechens want. Their president likes being part of Russia. I don't think there's many reliable polls about what the general population thinks.
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:42 pm
@izzythepush,
You are so wrong. I don't hate anyone, and I don't "love" Israel. I asked you several times - tell me what you like in Israel, I will be happy to tell you what I like about the UK. You start attacking Israel with crazy allegations like racist laws - I am showing you that the same can be applied to you. When people start telling me that all Muslims are terrorists, or all Arabs are primitive - I do the same to them. I don't like blind single-sided views. I told you before , if you don't want to get "Anglophobia" stop your "Israel-phobia" or whatever phobia.
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:45 pm
@izzythepush,
I don't care if he's as charming as the Queen herself. He supports a terrorist organization - that's all that matters to me. And that would also stir up trouble among people who ..well, don't like terrorists.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:47 pm
@0bserver,
Every thing I've said about Israel has been backed up with reliable sources. This is one, and it's something good about Israel, but I don't think you'll approve.
http://www.btselem.org/
I won't ask you to make up things you supposedly like about the UK, that would be too painful.
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:47 pm
@izzythepush,
Now you're just being a bureaucrat
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:48 pm
@0bserver,
Israel is the biggest terrorist organisation in the Middle East. Their kill rate puts all the others to shame.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 03:49 pm
@0bserver,
It's better than making **** up.
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0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 04:04 pm
@izzythepush,
No, what was backed up by sources was one thing, but what you concluded from that was completely different.

You'll be surprised. I don't agree with them always, but I like the fact they exist. It's important to have freedom of speech. But you know this is not what I meant. The only thing you like about Israel is the organization that only criticizes Israel - this is just funny. I guess you expect me to say that I like the Sinn Fein or something?

No. I don't have to make up things. The UK is a very advanced society, regardless of some insane politicians. Despite what we discussed about the Jewish detention camps etc. I do very much appreciate the UK contribution to WWII - I told you before. I like the UK academic system, especially people who are not involved in politics. I appreciate UK responsible involvement in many conflicts, and that's actually why I'm disappointed on Syria now. See, not so hard.

Also, I have no problem appreciating Palestinians who make an effort for peace. Abu Mazen, Rajoub, Arekat, Fayyad .. many Palestinians who are struggling to do honest business despite the rule of Hamas in Gaza. I can understand the suffering of not being able to leave your country when you wish, of waiting in line at check posts etc. I am aware of all that. If you take the Israeli right-wing position - I will argue with you from an opposite point. If you take 100% anti-Israel pro-Palestinian position, what do you expect?
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 04:05 pm
@izzythepush,
Disappointing. I was actually hoping to be able to have intelligent discussions with you .. too bad
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 04:17 pm
@0bserver,
There is a reason he has adopted the name izzythe'PUSH'. I disengaged with him long ago. Dont go for insulting posts that cant be reasonably answered. He believes that England can do no wrong just as you believe the same about Israel.
0bserver
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 04:41 pm
@RABEL222,
I don't believe anyone should be allowed to do "wrong". And it is often not as simple as "right" and "wrong". That's why I think taking sides is counterproductive
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 09:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
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the UK has no interest in that, they are currently running around Africa trying to dictate gay laws by force, and before that they were joining USA in invading muslim nations to impose their will.


LOL you mean they are trying to block right wing American Christians groups from getting laws pass to killed or at least imprison gays on the dark continent?

Same on them trying to interfere with Christians spreading the words of Christ that you should throw the first rock and many more at anyone who happen to be gay until they are dead.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 09:49 pm
@0bserver,
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I still think the UK is one of the advanced societies,


This is the nation that is buying hardware to filter the internet from the Chinese of all people and it for the children and it will be only a porn filtering beside being voluntary.

And if you believe any of the limit to what the UK government will end up filtering you are in a sad way.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2013 09:54 pm
@izzythepush,
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He's democratically elected, and only those countries that want to stifle free speech would keep him out, countries like Egypt and...


Uk is hardly in favor of free speech now is it? See all their laws dealing with "hate speech" just to begin with.
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