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Do we really have to take military action to Syria?

 
 
peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 05:49 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
When a Member Nation has weapons of mass destruction, They rationalize on different ways they can use them. They are making plans on how to use them. Members agreed to not use them. They should not own them.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 08:15 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
You wrote,
Quote:
They are making plans on how to use them. Members agreed to not use them.


That's a direct contradiction.
peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 10:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Yes I agree. If the member has weapons of mass destruction, surely they have some kind of battle plan on how they will use it.
And they agreed not to use any. So yes it is a contradiction.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Sep, 2013 10:51 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Well, someone in Pentagon planning probably has worked up plans to fend off an invasion from Tierra del Fuego. T'ain't likely. . . .
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 02:46 am
@roger,
No, not very likely. I've just checked the FBI website and it's only flagged as an amber alert at the moment.
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peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 06:01 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
A Nation member should have to prove they are not going to use weapons of mass destruction by destroying them. Why would a member not destroy their weapons of mass destruction? Unless a member has some battle plan that it is intended to be used in? That would be premeditation to use weapons of mass destruction.
oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 08:27 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
peter jeffrey cobb wrote:
A Nation member should have to prove they are not going to use weapons of mass destruction by destroying them. Why would a member not destroy their weapons of mass destruction? Unless a member has some battle plan that it is intended to be used in? That would be premeditation to use weapons of mass destruction.

The United States retains nuclear weapons so that we can deter others from using nuclear weapons against us or our allies.

Were there to be a program that reliably eliminated nukes worldwide, we would likely agree to it. But absent the reliable elimination of nukes from all other nations, we will never give up our nuclear deterrent.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 08:45 am
@roger,
Peter has you guys tied up in knots and what is Roger the dodger doing but dodging.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 08:53 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
The United States retains nuclear weapons so that we can deter others from using nuclear weapons against us or our allies.


More slimy Uncle Sam dribble, Oralboy. Wipe your chin. The US has no allies, it only has people and countries that it uses. The US will sell anyone down the river in a heartbeat.

The US keeps the largest arsenal the world has ever seen, all manner of weapons, bigger than the next four or five countries combined. The US greedily sucks up most of the energy on the planet all to keep in place its criminal ability to steal from the poor of the world.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 08:54 am
All this reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) conversation between JFK and one of the USSR Foreign Ministers.

They were discussing nuclear disarmament…and JFK asked, “What would you do if we both proceeded in good faith…and at some point after we supposedly destroyed our complete arsenals, you found out that because of a mistake, you still had some nuclear devices in stock?”

“Well,” came the reply, “first we would immediately notify you of the mistake. And then we would issue our ultimatum.”
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 09:04 am
@JTT,
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More slimy Uncle Sam dribble, Oralboy. Wipe your chin. The US has no allies, it only has people and countries that it uses. The US will sell anyone down the river in a heartbeat.

The US keeps the largest arsenal the world has ever seen, of all manner of weapons, bigger than the next four or five countries combined. The US greedily sucks up most of the energy on the planet all to keep in place its criminal ability to steal from the poor of the world.


I have to hand it to you JT. You really know how to **** on us goodstyle.

Now--if you could just get yourself crucified on a small hill!!!
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 09:10 am
@spendius,
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You really know how to **** on us goodstyle.


You count yourself in with Oralboy, Spendi?
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 10:22 am
@Frank Apisa,
All this reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) conversation between JFK and one of the USSR Foreign Ministers.

They were discussing nuclear disarmament…and JFK asked, “What would you do if we both proceeded in good faith…and at some point after we supposedly destroyed our complete arsenals, you found out that because of a mistake, you still had some nuclear devices in stock?”

“Well,” came the reply, “first we would immediately notify you of the mistake. And then we would issue our ultimatum.”

One of the facts of life that some people like to ignore. It is a matter of self defense now. If we destroyed all our nukes how long do you think it would take North Korea to nuke us?
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 10:25 am
@RABEL222,
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One of the facts of life that some people like to ignore. It is a matter of self defense now. If we destroyed all our nukes how long do you think it would take North Korea to nuke us?


www.dilbert.com
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peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:03 pm
@RABEL222,
Are you planning on using one of those weapons of mass destruction?
Are you premeditating it?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:26 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Only as a threat to anyone who was thinking about using it on us. Do you know what a deterrent is. Both you and JTT should go back to the Delbert cartoon. I think the meaning went right over your heads. Or are you one of those guys who likes to argue just for the sake of argument.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:41 pm
@RABEL222,
I agree with you! I wonder where these guys have their heads? If we eliminate all of our WMD's and only rogue states have them, what do they think will happen?

DUH!
peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:45 pm
@RABEL222,
Yes they have been used in the past in conflicts.
But we agreed not to use them. So there is not rationalization to "yes but we will use them in case there is a conflict." That is premeditation to using weapons of mass destruction.
A Nation member should not own weapons of mass destruction.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:48 pm
@RABEL222,
You and CI are so dumb, not that I'm telling you anything new, that you can't even comprehend that Peter has you both tied up in knots.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 12:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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If we eliminate all of our WMD's


Then you would be the only rogue state not to have WMDs. But you could buy WMDs back all the WMDs from all the rogue states that you have supplied with WMDs, using, of course, you little sheeple's money.
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