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When Crazy Armed person meets crazy armed person

 
 
Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 07:38 am
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Tough-talking Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio is warning civilians who embark on armed patrols in remote desert terrain that they could end up with “30 rounds fired into” them by one of his deputies.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/arizona-sheriff-joe-arpaio-militias-95732.html#ixzz2cbuZyHew


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“You aren’t taking my weapons,” replied Malley, who was armed with a semi-automatic rifle, a .45 caliber handgun and a knife, according to court records.

Another deputy eventually arrived and arrested Malley for aggravated assault. He was released on $10,000 bail and is set for a court appearance on Aug. 26. It wasn’t clear if Malley had an attorney, and telephone numbers listed for him were disconnected.

Malley claimed “he had the right to point his rifle at the individual because he had reasonable suspicion to believe a crime was occurring,” according to the probable cause statement. He identified himself as a “militia Minuteman.”


Sherriff Arpaio (America's toughest sherriff) is a hero to the anti-immigrant right. So are the Minutemen loonies.

It is a terrible shame when they start pointing guns at each other.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 08:11 am
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It is a terrible shame when they start pointing guns at each other.

This might be a problem that takes care of itself.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 11:16 am
@maxdancona,
You could at least get the phrasing right. It is anti-illegal immigrant right. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration into the US, it is the illegal immigration that a vast majority of us have an issue with.

maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 12:44 pm
@Baldimo,
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It is anti-illegal immigrant right. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration into the US


I think anti-immigrant is the right "phrasing".

Can you name any policies supported by the anti-so-called-illegal-immigrant right that would actually make legal immigration easier?
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 01:38 pm
@maxdancona,
No one has argued about making legal immigration easier. The difference of opinion comes from what to do with the illegal immigrants that are already here. What do we do with the people who have already broken the law and are now demanding legal status?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 01:43 pm
@Baldimo,
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No one has argued about making legal immigration easier.


You are making the claim that these people on the right are "anti-illegal-immigrant" rather than "anti-immigrant". The implication is that they are "pro-legal-immigrant".

That is why I am asking how they are "pro-legal-immigrant" (meaning in favor of making legal immigration easier).

If someone is both "anti-illegal-immigration" and "anti-legal-immigration" (it seems to me that most people on the right are anti-both) than the term "anti-all-immigration" or the shorter version "anti-immigrant" is appropriate.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 01:50 pm
@maxdancona,
Wrong. You can imply all you want but that doesn't make it fact. Have you seen anyone from the right stand up and say we have to stop all immigration? No you haven't. We don't agree on illegal immigration so your stance is that people who don't want to reform immigration are anti-immigrant. It is horse pucky! It is gaming with words. Control the language and you control the debate.

It would be the same as saying because you believe in abortion that you are pro-baby murder. We know that isn't the case.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:28 pm
@Baldimo,
The Right in this country (and let's define Right as the people currently in control of the House of Representatives) have anti-immigrant positions that are much more than anti-illegal positions.

- They oppose making it easier for legal immigrants to bring in their families.
- They oppose making it possible for citizens in same sex relationships from sponsoring their partner as a legal immigrant.
- They oppose making it easier for people here legally with H1-B visas from getting green cards.
- They oppose making it easier for people here legally with green cards to become citizens.

There are many ways that right wing Republicans oppose legal immigration in ways that have nothing to do with illegal immigration.

Let me ask you again. Is there any way that right wing Republicans support making legal immigration easier?

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