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U.S. Dollar and Market Rocket Skyward on new jobs data

 
 
Fedral
 
Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 07:47 am
Watching CNBC and the floor of the Stock Market is going insane over the stonger than expected jobs data from the Department of Labor.

Dept. of Labor reports that employment in all sectors have gone up except manufacturing (manufacturing has remained flat)

Dept of Labor reported that U.S. jobs in March grew at the highest rate in 4 years

Even the average hourly wage is up.

The Euro is dropping against the dollar.

They are snatching up U.S. Bonds like its an after Christmas sale.

Dow ... look at it go.

S&P Index ... headed higher.

NASDAQ is heading up up up.



<Kerry turns on the T.V., turns pale and looks at his staff>
"We are SO screwed"
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Titus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 08:01 am
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Fedral
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 08:09 am
308,000 new jobs this MONTH.
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The writer of that article should have waited a few days to write hisarticle so he didn't lok so foolish at the most recent figures.
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Fedral
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 08:15 am
Titus wrote:
Jobless Rates Rise in Key Election States

"Missouri, a state Bush won in 2000, was one of nine battleground states where the jobless rate rose in February. The rate jumped to 5.1% from 4.7% and businesses cut 19,200 jobs from their payrolls. The nation's jobless rate is 5.6%.

In Arizona, another battleground state that Bush won in 2000, the jobless rate ticked up to 5.3% from 5.2% in January.

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.



I love the way some writers skew the facts to suit their needs.
As per the above article, both Missouri and Arizona's unemployment rate raised .2% and .1% respectively and yet their unemployment rate was still LOWER than the national average...
Sounds to me like thay are still in pretty good shape.

5.1% and 5.3 unemployment is still considered VERY low.
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Titus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 08:23 am
Is that 308,000 jobs created HERE or does that number include new jobs created for the purpose of off-shoring to India, Vietnam, Pakistan, Ireland and Mexico?

A link would be extremely useful.

I seriously doubt Bush will be able to replace the 3 million jobs lost on his watch by November.

In any event, when I watch CNBC, time after time, when CEOs are polled, I have never seen more than 25% of them say they plan to hire this year.
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Titus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:00 am
WASHINGTON -- President Bush is in Louisville, Kentucky and Charlotte, North Carolina Friday to talk about the Administration's record on the economy and job training. But Presidential pep talks cannot change the realities facing America:

President Bush has proposed over $1.8 billion in job training and related education cuts since taking office - a loss of training opportunities for thousands of students at community colleges. This year alone, the President's latest budget proposed cuts of nearly $300 million in job training programs and $316 million in vocational education.

During the Bush Administration, 2.9 million private sector jobs have been lost - the worst job creation record in 70 years. At the same time, we have lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs. To keep pace with the number of jobs available for working adults when President Bush took office, we would now need 7.1 million more jobs.

The Labor Department reported this week that more companies conducted mass layoffs this past January than in any other month on record - over 2,400 companies.

The Bush Administration is now acknowledging the current state of our economy by back-peddling on earlier job growth predictions. President Bush's Council on Economic Advisers predicted this month that 2.6 million jobs would be created this year. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 1.8 million fewer jobs have been created than predicted by the Bush Administration.

Over 760,000 people are projected to exhaust their unemployment benefits between the beginning of December and the end of February, and two million are projected to lose their benefits by June without an extension of benefits. The Bush Administration and Congressional Republicans have failed to extend unemployment benefits despite continued high unemployment and lack of job growth, and despite the fact that $20 billion will be sitting, untapped, in the Unemployment Insurance Trust funds at the end of March. These are funds that should benefit our unemployed.

The economic claims of the Bush Administration have become absurd. Bush's economic advisor, Greg Mankiw, has championed the outsourcing of American jobs and suggested in his economic report that jobs at McDonald's might be considered manufacturing positions.

http://edworkforce.house.gov/democrats/releases/rel22604.html
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Titus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:02 am
March 31, 2004 | Daily Mislead Archive
Bush Can't Provide Proof To Support His Jobs Claim

As President Bush tours the country touting his economic record, he is trying to shift the blame for the more than 2 million jobs that have been lost since he took office1. Specifically, he has repeatedly claimed, "over a million jobs were lost because of the [9/11] attack"2. But a new report shows that there are no statistics to support this assertion, and that the White House itself cannot provide any evidence that this is the case.

According to the Bureau of National Affairs, "White House officials were unable to point to any specific information that supports a direct link between massive job losses and the attacks"3. While one White House spokeswoman claimed that the President's statements were "supported by the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)," that agency's associate commissioner "said BLS has not compiled any specific study on jobs which were lost specifically because of the Sept. 11 attacks."

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df03312004.html
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Fedral
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:22 am
Titus wrote:

During the Bush Administration, 2.9 million private sector jobs have been lost - the worst job creation record in 70 years. At the same time, we have lost 2.8 million manufacturing jobs. To keep pace with the number of jobs available for working adults when President Bush took office, we would now need 7.1 million more jobs.


That is absurd... if we had actually 'lost' 2.9 million ps jobs AND 2.8 million manu jobs, don't you think that the Democrats would be screaming about the 5.7 million jobs lost? The data you posted here was just inaccurate.

Titus wrote:
The Labor Department reported this week that more companies conducted mass layoffs this past January than in any other month on record - over 2,400 companies.


And yet the unemployment rate didn't climb ... looks like there are just as many people getting new jobs as people getting laid off.

Titus wrote:
The Bush Administration and Congressional Republicans have failed to extend unemployment benefits despite continued high unemployment and lack of job growth, and despite the fact that $20 billion will be sitting, untapped, in the Unemployment Insurance Trust funds at the end of March. These are funds that should benefit our unemployed.


Lets make this perfectly clear so there is no room for misunderstanding:
5.6 to 5.7% unemployment is NOT high. It is in fact, VERY low. (this is the same figure that former President Clinton ran on while his party trumpeted from the rafters at the 'lowest unemployment in years'

Titus, your unreasoning hate of the Bush Administration and your blithe acceptance of biased articles that try to twist every victory of the Administration into some sort of defeat, has made you blind to the truth.

The economy is getting better.
People are finding jobs.
The terrorists are contained off our shores.
If this keeps up, Kerry will lose.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:24 am
Fedral wrote:
The economy is getting better.
People are finding jobs.
The terrorists are contained off our shores.
If this keeps up, Kerry will lose.


Ever tried this, Fedral? :wink:

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hobitbob
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:29 am
Om, mani padme hummmmm.......
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:33 am
LOL Walter
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:40 am
Must be terribly disappointing to the 'anybody but Bush' people to see that there is very good news re both new jobs created and lower unemployment this week.

I would be interested to see what sources Titus is getting his posts from, but the very tone and manner in which they are worded would suggest they are from intentionally partisan, anti-Bush venues.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 09:58 am
this consistent railing of "partisan" when info is not exactly what I want it to be is getting tiresome. everyone of us has inherent bias to news but to consistently deny either side with "anybody but bush" comments are intellectually bankrupt. what is clear from the dept of labor stats released this morning is the the economy is currently a mixed bag of favorable and non favorable news;
Quote:
The unemployment rate, 5.7 percent, and the number of unemployed persons,
8.4 million, were essentially unchanged in March. Both measures remained
below their recent highs of June 2003. Unemployment rates for the major
worker groups--adult men (5.2 percent), adult women (5.1 percent), teenagers
(16.5 percent), whites (5.1 percent), blacks (10.2 percent), and Hispanics or
Latinos (7.4 percent)--showed little or no change over the month. The unem-
ployment rate for Asians was 4.2 percent in March, not seasonally adjusted.
(See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)

Total Employment and the Labor Force (Household Survey Data)

Total employment in March held at 138.3 million, and the employment-popula-
tion ratio--the proportion of the population age 16 and over with jobs--was
essentially unchanged at 62.1 percent. The civilian labor force was about
unchanged over the month at 146.7 million, and the labor force participation
rate remained at 65.9 percent. (See table A-1.)

In March, the number of persons who worked part time for economic reasons
increased to 4.7 million, about the same level as in January. These indivi-
duals indicated that they would like to work full time but were working part
time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to
find full-time jobs. (See table A-5.)
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lets, just to try something a little different, try looking at the picture in its totality and with some degree of reason admit that there are some indications that economic recovery might very well be occuring but there remain some noteably negative residual problems that do not seem all that promising. A mixed bag of indicators indicates promise as well as concern for the current economy.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 10:12 am
Looking forward to seeing you again, dys.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 10:14 am
Very Happy
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ConstantlyQuestioning
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 10:21 am
Quote:
this consistent railing of "partisan" when info is not exactly what I want it to be is getting tiresome.

there are some indications that economic recovery might very well be occuring but there remain some noteably negative residual problems that do not seem all that promising. A mixed bag of indicators indicates promise as well as concern for the current economy.


This is the first time I find myself in agreement with you dys. The economy isn't as doomed as the dems say nor as perfect as the reps say.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 10:35 am
Re: U.S. Dollar and Market Rocket Skyward on new jobs data
Fedral wrote:
Dow ... look at it go.

S&P Index ... headed higher.

NASDAQ is heading up up up.

Having a bit of money invested in the market, Fedral, I wish this were true.

But, as of this writing, the Dow is up 77.34, the NASDAQ is up 27.30, and the S&P 500 is up a blistering 7.41. If that's a rocket, I hope we're not shooting for the moon.

Fedral wrote:
<Kerry turns on the T.V., turns pale and looks at his staff>
"We are SO screwed"

Nah, we were all saying that back in December of 2000.
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Tarantulas
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 11:12 am
Quote:
March Job Growth Strongest in 4 Years
Friday April 2, 8:28 am ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. employment rose last month at the fastest pace in nearly four years, easily outstripping expectations, as workers returned after a grocery store strike and construction hiring bounced back on better weather, a government report on Friday showed.
The latest report from the Labor Department offered comfort to President Bush as the jobs market - a hot political issue in the U.S. presidential campaign -- finally made a decisive break to the upside.

Non-farm payrolls climbed 308,000 in March, the Labor Department said, the biggest gain since April 2000 and well above the 103,000 rise expected on Wall Street.

The unemployment rate ticked up to 5.7 percent from the two-year low of 5.6 percent seen in January and February.

Upward revisions to January and February payrolls helped contribute to the positive tone of the report, which could fuel expectations that the Federal Reserve may be closer to raising overnight interest rates from their current 1958 low of 1 percent than had been thought.

The March rise in payrolls reflected the resolution of a labor dispute at grocery stores in southern California that had idled 72,000 workers. The department said the return of those workers helped fuel a 47,000 increase in retail employment last month, but it did not quantify the impact.

Economists had said the return of those workers would boost payrolls, but that the impact was hard to gauge because it was unclear how many temporary replacement workers were being let go.

The report showed job gains were widespread across industries.

While a long-hoped for rise in manufacturing employment did not appear, the department said factory payrolls were unchanged in March, finally breaking a string of 43 consecutive monthly declines.

Reuters/Yahoo
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Titus
 
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Reply Fri 2 Apr, 2004 11:16 pm
Are the Bushites really this desperate?

I suppose so.

Considering that Bush has championed 3 years and 3 months of solid job loses, and a failure to create new jobs at a level not seen since Herbert Hoover, I guess a single good month is enough to make them take to the streets shouting, "Allah is great!"

I believe we should wait and see until April, May, June, July, and August have come and gone and a solid, verifiable period of quarters have past with new jobs creation in each month before pronouncing Bush's jobless recovery is in fact, over.
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