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The Zimmerman rescue hoax

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:05 am
The accident was real. Whether helping them out of an overturned vehicle can be considered "rescuing them" is another thing entirely.

But it has gotten the attention of Twitter where George is now appearing everywhere to rescue people

http://samuel-warde.com/2013/07/after-george-zimmerman-rescued-family-hilarious-thanksgeorge-twitter-feed-was-born/

Quote:
The rescue hasn’t gone unnoticed on Twitter, where an hilarious twitter feed erupted. Here are some of the posts on #thanksgeorge:
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 09:23 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I remember when princes Diana was in a wreck photo takers were running around the wreck taking pictures of her dieing.
Did anything happen to them for taking pictures rather rendering aid?
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:23 am
All joking aside, whatever aid George offered to these people in need was a kind and good thing.
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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:36 am
@parados,
Those are funny. Laughing

I love this one...

Quote:
Just saw George Zimmerman breast feed a litter of abandon puppies. #ThanksGeorge
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revelette
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 10:58 am
I'm wondering who the other rescuer was, has his name been released anywhere?

I also wonder how Zimmerman who supposedly was so soft he was helpless against a 158 pound boy could pull this guy out of a smoking car.

http://www.everyjoe.com/wp-content/gallery/george-zimmerman-hero/mark-gerstle-dana-gerstle-photos-2.jpg
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:08 am
@revelette,
Quote:
I also wonder how Zimmerman who supposedly was so soft he was helpless against a 158 pound boy could pull this guy out of a smoking car.


Why is everyone jumping to silly conclusions, Rev? I think that the smoke helped float the guy.

For sure, the situation is ripe for all sorts of humor, but it's not unreasonable in the least that GZ helped these people.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:09 am
@revelette,
No one was injured in the car, so they didn't need to be "pulled out".

I'm not sure the car was smoking either. This wasn't a crash, it was a rollover.

Zimmerman "helped" them get out of the car. While that's nice, it's hardly heroic, or even noteworthy.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:12 am
@firefly,
Quote:
No one was injured in the car, so they didn't need to be "pulled out".

I'm not sure the car was smoking either. This wasn't a crash, it was a rollover.

Zimmerman "helped" them get out of the car. While that's nice, it's hardly heroic, or even noteworthy.


That's as fine a distortion as I've ever seen you make, Firefly. You must feel exceedingly proud.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:25 am
@JTT,
It's not a distortion, none of the accounts I read described a "smoking" vehicle...this was a rollover accident, and what Zimmerman did was "helping" the uninjured occupants out of the car.
Quote:
The incident occurred on July 17 in Sanford, Fla., near the intersection of Interstate 4 and State Road 46, officials confirmed to NBC News. The rescue was first reported by ABC News.

Zimmerman and another man were assisting a family of four when officers with the Seminole County Sheriff's Office arrived on the scene of the accident. A blue Ford Explorer had traveled off the road and rolled over, according to officials.

Zimmerman and the other man were helping the two children and their parents get out of the overturned vehicle, the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office said. The former neighborhood watch volunteer left the scene after making contact with police and did not witness the crash.

There were no injuries to any of the vehicle’s occupants, according to police.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/22/19618495-zimmerman-emerges-to-help-family-escape-overturned-car-in-sanford-fla?lite

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:33 am
@firefly,
Somewhat similar to helping a handicapped person in a wheelchair through a door. That's heroism? LOL
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:40 am
@firefly,
It was a distortion in that you were simply attempting to belittle his efforts. He went to help someone in need.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

If this accident had happened in Germany and Zimmerman hadn't helped ...

Quote:
Section 323c
Omission to effect an easy rescue


Whosoever does not render assistance during accidents or a common danger or emergency although it is necessary and can be expected of him under the circumstances, particularly if it is possible without substantial danger to himself and without violation of other important duties shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine.



Even if the person not giving his/her assistance is a Holocaust Survivor, and might still have no love for most German nationals? Or, is an exception made for Jews that believe that many Germans may get over-zealous in their beliefs?

There was a long running situation comedy on American television, back in the '90's, where the last episode's story line had a similar law (that was fictitious), putting the main characters in jail, since they did not assist a person in trouble.

Would this law apply to tourists also?



JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:53 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
Even if the person not giving his/her assistance is a Holocaust Survivor, and might still have no love for most Germans? Or, is an exception made for Jews that believe that Germans may get over-zealous in their beliefs?


Finger pointing definitely becomes you hypocritical Americans, Foofie.

Consider what Vietnamese Holocaust survivors might think, or what Cambodian Holocaust survivors might think, or what Nicaraguan Holocaust survivors might think, or what Korean Holocaust survivors might think.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 11:53 am
@RABEL222,
The relevant article in the French code pénal is even stricter than the one in Germany ...

Quote:
Article 223-6
Modifié par Ordonnance n°2000-916 du 19 septembre 2000 - art. 3 (V) JORF 22 septembre 2000 en vigueur le 1er janvier 2002
Quiconque pouvant empêcher par son action immédiate, sans risque pour lui ou pour les tiers, soit un crime, soit un délit contre l'intégrité corporelle de la personne s'abstient volontairement de le faire est puni de cinq ans d'emprisonnement et de 75000 euros d'amende.

Sera puni des mêmes peines quiconque s'abstient volontairement de porter à une personne en péril l'assistance que, sans risque pour lui ou pour les tiers, il pouvait lui prêter soit par son action personnelle, soit en provoquant un secours.

... but as far as I remember, no-one was accused of not having followed the "duty to rescue" but the trial(s) were about privacy laws (Article 226 code pénal)
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 12:06 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Even if the person not giving his/her assistance is a Holocaust Survivor, and might still have no love for most German nationals? Or, is an exception made for Jews that believe that many Germans may get over-zealous in their beliefs?

There was a long running situation comedy on American television, back in the '90's, where the last episode's story line had a similar law (that was fictitious), putting the main characters in jail, since they did not assist a person in trouble.

Would this law apply to tourists also?
We don't have a special criminal code for different persons, different religions, different nationalities etc.

The judge(s) certainly will consider extenuating circumstances.

Do you have special, extra criminal codes for tourists or Holocaust survivors in the USA? Interesting, here in Germany all are euqual under the law.

You might consider these laws to be part of a comedy, but funny as it might be in your opinion - it's the criminal law in more than 100 countries.
(In civil law, the equivalent are the victims compensation laws.)

Generally, this subject is something so special that it's part of the last exams for law students ...
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 12:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Somewhat similar to helping a handicapped person in a wheelchair through a door. That's heroism? LOL


Somehow I can see both you and Firefly cheerfully driving by that van and not even for a moment entertaining the idea or giving aid of any kind.

Maybe you might and I mean might give a 911 call.

Zimmerman had shown that he is a citizen that get involved and aid his fellow man as needed such as raising hell over a homeless black man being beaten by a son of a cop and the police taking no actions.

In my opinion one Zimmerman is worth ten of either you or Firefly.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 12:58 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Somehow I can see both you and Firefly cheerfully driving by that van and not even for a moment entertaining the idea or giving aid of any kind.

Maybe you might and I mean might give a 911 call.


That's a bit over the top, Bill.

You could certainly note the incredible hypocrisy of FF and sometimes, CI [he's really conflicted], but then you would have to note your incredible hypocrisy and that of the vast majority of A2Kers and Americans, especially your "leaders".
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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 01:07 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:

Zimmerman had shown that he is a citizen that get involved and aid his fellow man...


The way he aided Trayvon Martin...
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 01:24 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
The way he aided Trayvon Martin...


You really gotta stop with the Saint Firefly routine, FF.

What have you done, what are you doing to aid your fellow man in the 200 illegal invasions of countries that has occurred at the hands of your criminal governments?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 25 Jul, 2013 01:41 pm
@firefly,
How are you supposed to help someone standing over you and hitting your head against the ground?
 

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