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I was the son of sailors and reared on stories of the sea.

 
 
WBYeats
 
Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 09:35 am
A without-context dictionary sentence:

-I was the son of sailors and reared on stories of the sea.

Is WAS instead of IS used because 1. one or more of those sailors are dead, 2. all those sailors are dead, or 3. the speaker is in Hades.

WB.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 09:46 am
One or more of those, probably.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 09:58 am
@WBYeats,
WBYeats wrote:
Is WAS instead of IS used because


the narrator is not Jamaican.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 10:24 am
@WBYeats,
The speaker uses "was" because he is no longer a child and is no longer being reared. (Unless, of course, he grew up to be a gay boy.)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 10:27 am
By the way, additionally, one would not say "I is the son of sailors . . . "
WBYeats
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 08:15 pm
Thank you, Set. I was so engrossed in the meaning that I forgot the subject is I not HE. From my angle, it is a HE!

But isn't the status of being the son of sailors permanent truth? Has SON in English culture a special meaning of A YOUNG BOY?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 08:30 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

By the way, additionally, one would not say "I is the son of sailors . . . "


Unless you are Popeye the Sailor man.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 09:21 pm
@WBYeats,
I am the son of the keeper of the Eddystone light.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 21 Jul, 2013 11:26 pm
@WBYeats,
Set described it accurately. The speaker's focus is on the period of time when that person was a youth.

Quote:
But isn't the status of being the son of sailors permanent truth?


CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT, WB.

It can be used in that sense, IF the speaker so chooses. That's kind of a special case.

I am the son of sailors and we, of this community, are all sons and daughters of sailors. We won't let our life, our community, our history be destroyed by a government that is ... .

This present tense use is intended to focus on the continuing, the alive sense of US. [that's 'us', not USA]

Quote:

Has SON in English culture a special meaning of A YOUNG BOY?


It does, in many situations, but it isn't limited to 'young'. Does it work the same way in Chinese?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jul, 2013 02:54 am
@WBYeats,
As i've already pointed out, the first person subject has already been reared, he is no longer being reared.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 22 Jul, 2013 11:55 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
As i've already pointed out, the first person subject has already been reared, he is no longer being reared.


I pointed that out, Set.

But WB asked a further question so more was required. I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to go beyond your initial insightful comment.
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