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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 14 Feb, 2014 10:53 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
Frank Apisa asked: And then you agree that if only they would put more guns in the hands of more people...they would become more polite like we Americans are...and would be more safe...like we Americans are...right?

Absolutely..Smile
Trouble is, the Brits are soft and unwisely think they're already polite enough.
For example in this alien landing in Dorsetshire the Brit woman asks if it'd like a cup of tea at 2:12-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/alien-prank_zpsf4b83785.jpg~original

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnxMd5e-lM0&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]

Now compare it to the much more sensible American way of greeting aliens with a hail of slugs-
The Day the Earth Stood Still
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/klaatushot_zps44a0c011.jpg~original


Glad to have someone on record as stating that the United States can teach other countries how to keep their citizens safer...while at the same time making them more polite...by putting more guns into the hands of more people!

I love it! Laughing
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Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 11:00 am
And when the Americans visit other planets they'll no doubt adopt the same sensible policy of shooting first and asking questions later-

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/forbid-invis_zps18697190.jpg~original
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BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 11:08 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
But if anybody in Britain REALLY wanted a gun, he could get one legitimately dead easy by joing an official gun club using their guns on their range for a probationary period of about 3 months, then fill in a Firearms Licence Request form from the police.


Oh how very very very strange given that by your own newspapers the English Olympics pistol team needed to leave the UK in order to practice!!!!!!!!
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glitterbag
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 11:11 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
That would have earned Trayvon a first degree murder conviction and a well-deserved spot on death row.
You mean stand your ground doesn't work if your walking while black?


Well apparently not to the A2K brain trust. Which one of them suggested hollow points??? Hollow points are not for protection, they are designed for maximum tissue damage and were outlawed by the Hauge in 1899 for use in combat. This decision predates the Geneva convention. In this country hollow points are only allowed in hunting because upon impact the bullet expands creating maximum tissue damage, giving the hunter a better chance of killing the animal. Full metal rounds can go thru the animal and strike unintended targets. Unless you are hunting during hunting season, in an area designated for hunting, it's illegal to be walking around aimlessly searching for 17 year old racists with candy and soda cans obviously up to no good.

Following zimmerman's trial, he has been involved in a few other 'stand your ground' incidents. Once he was required to beat the tar out his wife when he feared for his life because she looked at him the wrong way, and following that, he ordered his newest girlfriend out of HER house at gunpoint because apparently once again he was in fear for his life by yet another unarmed person.

He was afraid that she might actually try to defend herself, no self respecting asshole should ever experience that amount of fear. I think he should sue those women for frightening him.

As for Romeo, I think you should start your own thread to discuss how exciting it is to fire weapons. I'm sure a few folks enjoy how aroused you get fantizing about manly weapons discharging, but originally this thread was intended to follow the the trial. Actually I was a little surprised to see how many posters must have been on the scene, apparently also mind readers to know so many things that were not presented at trial.

Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 11:30 am
Quote:
Glitterbag said: As for Romeo, I think you should start your own thread to discuss how exciting it is to fire weapons

Yeah it must feel great..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/com-man52b.gif

Personally I've never fired a gun in my life; my dad brought two handguns home from WW2 and let me hold them when i was about 5, I still remember how cold and heavy they were, I vaguely think one was a Browning auto, and he made me promise never to tell anybody that he'd got them.
I never knew what happened to them, I searched the house when I got older but they'd gone, and when I asked him he replied "what guns?"..
glitterbag
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 12:04 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Your father sounds like he was very responsible. I'm saying adieu now, I can't read anymore of your juvenile musings. I realize this seems insulting, but that's not my motivation, you are so far removed from adult thinking it makes me feel like I'm ridiculing a 15 year old boy. According to your profile, you are eons past 15, but if you are emotionally stunted and can get so excited just thinking about firing a weapon, I've got to put you on a time out. I'm willing to bet most of us have owned or own a handgun or long barrel gun. I am proficient, however, I don't find it exciting or stimulating, and I wouldn't want to be on the range with a Billy the Kid wannabe.
Romeo Fabulini
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 12:10 pm
Quote:
Glitterbug said:@RF- you are emotionally stunted and can get so excited just thinking about firing a weapon

Prove it..Smile

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/shane-wilson_zps4568c86a.jpg~original
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BillRM
 
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Fri 14 Feb, 2014 12:26 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
I am proficient, however, I don't find it exciting or stimulating,


You do not enjoy going to the range?

As far as excitement that is not the word I would used more like enjoyable instead.

For exciting I would go with sky diving or flying a 300 pound ultralight aircraft to 5,000 feet. Still can remember the high of doing my first jump or the first time pointing my little aircraft into the wind and taking off.

Chasing hot air balloons around the sky on the weekends or pretending to do strafing runs on some of the boats in the bay.

When I was still working I would take a day off and fly over the local highways watching the poor men and women going to work that day as I goof off at a thousand feet above them.
oralloy
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 01:28 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
Hollow points are not for protection,
glitterbag wrote:
In this country hollow points are only allowed in hunting

Stop making things up. A2K should be a place where only truthful information is disseminated.
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 02:34 pm
@glitterbag,
farmerman wrote:
Quote:
That would have earned Trayvon a first degree murder conviction
and a well-deserved spot on death row.
You mean stand your ground doesn't work if your walking while black?
glitterbag wrote:
Well apparently not to the A2K brain trust.
Which one of them suggested hollow points???
ME. I did; the retired lawyer.
I 've stuffed them into my .44 caliber Taurus Model 445 Revolver
in Stainless Steel Mirrorhttp://www.proguns.com/images/used-guns/usedguns247-904/278taurus445.jpg on a daily basis for years,
decades and centuries. Thay seem to work fine, Glitterbag. Point of Information: WHERE and HOW did
the Hague get jurisdiction of this? ???? Has the Hague heard of The Second Amendment?????



glitterbag wrote:
Hollow points are not for protection,
they are designed for maximum tissue damage
and were outlawed by the Hauge in 1899 for use in combat.
This decision predates the Geneva convention.
I did not use them to hunt nazis nor commies.
We don t use them in international war, Glitterbag.
R u gonna complain to the UN????


glitterbag wrote:
In this country hollow points are only allowed in hunting because
upon impact the bullet expands creating maximum tissue damage,
giving the hunter a better chance of killing the animal.

Full metal rounds can go thru the animal and strike unintended targets.
Unless you are hunting during hunting season, in an area designated for hunting,
it's illegal to be walking around aimlessly searching for 17 year old racists
with candy and soda cans obviously up to no good.
I have discussed my choice of bullet configuration with FBI in Washington,
and with police at gunnery ranges, when thay have stopped me
to commend me on the beauty of my ordnance.

I told them that thay were exposing themselves to un-necessary risk
by using little 9mm automatics. We contrasted our respective reasoning.

Have u called the UN, yet, Glitterbag?? I 'm listening for sirens;
its quiet so far.



glitterbag wrote:
As for Romeo, I think you should start your own thread
to discuss how exciting it is to fire weapons.
I'm sure a few folks enjoy how aroused [????]
you get fantizing about manly weapons discharging,
Do u feel "manly" when discharging them, Glitterbag??
I 've never had that sensation, tho thay ARE tons of fun.

My favorite is the sweet little 9mm H & K MP-5 submachinegun!!!
Do u love them, Glitter bag??





David

P.S.:
Please note that I have never hunted for racists.

Thay don t mean much to me, pro or con.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 02:45 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Stop making things up. A2K should be a place where only truthful information is disseminated.


Maybe the IRS should step in and straighten this place out?http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/conspiracy.gif
OmSigDAVID
 
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Fri 14 Feb, 2014 02:56 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Stop making things up. A2K should be a place where only truthful information is disseminated.
coldjoint wrote:
Maybe the IRS should step in and straighten this place out?http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/conspiracy.gif
To be fair, she did not vest jurisdiction in the IRS.



Glitterbag, will u be good enuf to let me know
what THE PENALTY is for keeping hollowpointed slugs in my .44 revolver????

I 'll be very grateful for your information on that point.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 03:02 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I am proficient, however, I don't find it exciting or stimulating,


You do not enjoy going to the range?

As far as excitement that is not the word I would used more like enjoyable instead.

For exciting I would go with sky diving or flying a 300 pound ultralight aircraft to 5,000 feet. Still can remember the high of doing my first jump or the first time pointing my little aircraft into the wind and taking off.

Chasing hot air balloons around the sky on the weekends or pretending to do strafing runs on some of the boats in the bay.

When I was still working I would take a day off and fly over the local highways watching the poor men and women going to work that day as I goof off at a thousand feet above them.
Permit me to join in your sentiment, Bill!
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oralloy
 
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Fri 14 Feb, 2014 03:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Point of Information: WHERE and HOW did the Hague get jurisdiction of this? ????

It was in one of the Hague Conventions from right around 1900 (I forget which one).

The jurisdiction only applies to wartime use against other lawful combatants. The thinking was that honorable warriors who are serving their country should not simply be blown apart as if they were rabid animals.

There was never any thought that such a restriction would apply to use against common criminals. The restriction also does not apply when our soldiers are firing on terrorists or unlawful combatants.
spendius
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 03:40 pm
@oralloy,
Are you poking fun at the Hague Conventions oralloy?
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 03:52 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Frank Apisa said:@RF- People like you over there ought to lobby
to get the NRA to open a branch over in Great Britain...so you all can start pack more heat.
Pretty soon, you all will be as safe as we Americans.
And visitors to your country will be as safe as are visitors to America.
C'mon. Get with it, Romeo.
Make Great Britain a safer place by getting more guns into the hands of more people like we do here.
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Yes, but the Brits are too pre-occupied with drinking tea than to demand guns.
Ask any Brit if he wants a gun and he'll reply shocked "Certainly not! Why on earth would I want a gun, this is not the wild west!"
But if anybody in Britain REALLY wanted a gun, he could get one legitimately dead easy by joing an official gun club using their guns on their range for a probationary period of about 3 months, then fill in a Firearms Licence Request form from the police.
For handgun or for a shoulder-mounted gun??
To carry defensively 24/7 ?



Romeo Fabulini wrote:
The cops will then ask the club whether he behaved alright,
and if he did they'll then run background checks on him,
and if he's got no police record he'll be granted a Firearms Licence to buy one gun.
But if he's got so much as a parking ticket against his name he can kiss goodbye to dreams of getting a Licence.
(I once served a 3-month jail sentence on a vigilante rap, so I've got zilch chance!)
Have u considered going to a FREE country ?





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Fri 14 Feb, 2014 03:59 pm
@oralloy,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Point of Information: WHERE and HOW did the Hague get jurisdiction of this? ????
oralloy wrote:
It was in one of the Hague Conventions from right around 1900 (I forget which one).

The jurisdiction only applies to wartime use against other lawful combatants.
The thinking was that honorable warriors who are serving their country
should not simply be blown apart as if they were rabid animals.

There was never any thought that such a restriction would apply to use against common criminals.
The restriction also does not apply when our soldiers are firing on terrorists or unlawful combatants.
I know.
I was just having a little fun with Glitterbag
because she got all SERIOUS on us telling us what we cant do
and laying down THE LAW.

It can be fun to probe that.





David
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oralloy
 
  1  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 04:05 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
Are you poking fun at the Hague Conventions oralloy?

No. The point of the restrictions on hollow-points really was to limit damage done to honorable soldiers.

Essentially, if someone is eligible for POW status when captured, it is off limits to use hollow-point ammo against them.

If someone doesn't qualify for POW treatment upon capture, there is probably no prohibition against using hollow-point ammo against them.
BillRM
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 04:07 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Following zimmerman's trial, he has been involved in a few other 'stand your ground' incidents. Once he was required to beat the tar out his wife when he feared for his life because she looked at him the wrong way, and following that, he ordered his newest girlfriend out of HER house at gunpoint because apparently once again he was in fear for his life by yet another unarmed person.


Do you ever get tired of telling silly lies?

Not a mark on his wife as there was not a mark on Trayvon other then the one shot fired in self defense and not a mark on his girlfriend who was so concern about a shotgun being pointed at her she stay in plain sight in the front yard
waiting for the police.

Not one conviction of Zimmerman for beating or harming anyone or pointing any weapon against anyone.

Come on he beaten the tar out of his wife without leaving a mark on her!!!!!!
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spendius
 
  2  
Fri 14 Feb, 2014 04:20 pm
@oralloy,
It seemed meaningless to me. What's a war? How are wars now fought? Who are the "honorable soldiers"?

I was once temporarily billeted with an aspect of what I assume was a typical part of the rest of the French Foreign Legion. I had never realised how saintly I was before that.
 

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