27
   

The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
U shud get a Stand Your Ground Law enacted in England, Romeo


Stand their ground with what, given that as free Englishmen and women can not have anything on them that might be used as a weapon even a screw driver unless you can prove that you are carrying the screw driver for some task and not as a weapon.

Their women can not even have small containers of pepper spray to have some mild protection from rapists.

Only English criminals are likely to be armed.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 01:57 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
U shud get a Stand Your Ground Law enacted in England, Romeo


Stand their ground with what, given that as free Englishmen and women can not have anything on them that might be used as a weapon even a screw driver unless you can prove that you are carrying the screw driver for some task and not as a weapon.

Their women can not even have small containers of pepper spray to have some mild protection from rapists.

Only English criminals are likely to be armed.


Yeah...the lack of weapons is probably why violent crime is SO MUCH GREATER in England...than in the United States.
coldjoint
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 02:00 pm
@Frank Apisa,


Quote:
Yeah...the lack of weapons is probably why violent crime is SO MUCH GREATER in England...than in the United States.


It could be the reason they settle for mob violence instead.
0 Replies
 
Romeo Fabulini
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 02:14 pm
Quote:
OmSigDavid said: U shud get a Stand Your Ground Law enacted in England, Romeo
BillRM said: Stand their ground with what, given that as free Englishmen and women can not have anything on them that might be used as a weapon even a screw driver unless you can prove that you are carrying the screw driver for some task and not as a weapon.
Their women can not even have small containers of pepper spray to have some mild protection from rapists.
Only English criminals are likely to be armed.

Only a tiny minority of Brit crims pack artillery, and usually only use them against rival gangs.
And most of their weapons are junk, picked up second-hand and worn out, or made by shady backstreet gunsmiths out of soft metal liable to jam or explode in the users hand. Ammo too is mostly unreliable and shoddily-made.

I think it was just such a junk "gun" that I was shot with when walking home after dark in 2002. Three shots rang out of the shadows across the street, two whizzed past my head and smacked into a nearby brick wall and the third hit me in the calf but I carried on walking as if nothing had happened rather than give him the satisfaction of going down, how kool was that..Smile
There was a half-inch deep bloody hole in my leg but no bullet in there so it must have been a low-velocity junk gun.
I called the cops, the gunman was long gone but they found a half inch silver ball bearing in the gutter, maybe that was the "bullet"!

Incidentally, you can carry a screwdiver or even a knife for protection here in Britain and the cops can't touch you, UNLESS you tell them it's for protection, then they'll bust you!
For example, in a TV docu last year, Brit cops pulled over a young driver for a minor traffic offence and noticed a baseball bat on the back seat. They asked him why it was there and he replied "It's not there for any reason. It just happens to be there". They carried on chatting pleasantly with him hoping he's slip up, and he DID! He said something like "These are troubled times we live in and i might need the bat for protection"
BINGO, they nabbed him for "admitting to possession of a weapon"!
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 02:37 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Quote:
OmSigDavid said: U shud get a Stand Your Ground Law enacted in England, Romeo
BillRM said: Stand their ground with what, given that as free Englishmen and women can not have anything on them that might be used as a weapon even a screw driver unless you can prove that you are carrying the screw driver for some task and not as a weapon.
Their women can not even have small containers of pepper spray to have some mild protection from rapists.
Only English criminals are likely to be armed.

Only a tiny minority of Brit crims pack artillery, and usually only use them against rival gangs.
And most of their weapons are junk, picked up second-hand and worn out, or made by shady backstreet gunsmiths out of soft metal liable to jam or explode in the users hand. Ammo too is mostly unreliable and shoddily-made.

I think it was just such a junk "gun" that I was shot with when walking home after dark in 2002. Three shots rang out of the shadows across the street, two whizzed past my head and smacked into a nearby brick wall and the third hit me in the calf but I carried on walking as if nothing had happened rather than give him the satisfaction of going down, how kool was that..Smile
There was a half-inch deep bloody hole in my leg but no bullet in there so it must have been a low-velocity junk gun.
I called the cops, the gunman was long gone but they found a half inch silver ball bearing in the gutter, maybe that was the "bullet"!

Incidentally, you can carry a screwdiver or even a knife for protection here in Britain and the cops can't touch you, UNLESS you tell them it's for protection, then they'll bust you!
For example, in a TV docu last year, Brit cops pulled over a young driver for a minor traffic offence and noticed a baseball bat on the back seat. They asked him why it was there and he replied "It's not there for any reason. It just happens to be there". They carried on chatting pleasantly with him hoping he's slip up, and he DID! He said something like "These are troubled times we live in and i might need the bat for protection"
BINGO, they nabbed him for "admitting to possession of a weapon"!



People like you over there ought to lobby to get the NRA to open a branch over in Great Britain...so you all can start pack more heat.

Pretty soon, you all will be as safe as we Americans.

And visitors to your country will be as safe as are visitors to America.

C'mon. Get with it, Romeo.

Make Great Britain a safer place by getting more guns into the hands of more people like we do here.
Baldimo
 
  2  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 03:47 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Come on now Frank. You know as well as I do that it isn't the gun but who is using it. Over 300,000 million guns in the US, and crime at an all time low.

Violent crime in the UK is higher then it is here by about double. They might not have as many guns as we do here but that doesn't stop the people with bad intentions. Violent crime in the UK is about double what it is here. Sure you have a better chance of being shot here, but you have a better chance of getting stabbed and robbed in the UK. I'll take my chances here!
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 04:45 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Come on now Frank. You know as well as I do that it isn't the gun but who is using it. Over 300,000 million guns in the US, and crime at an all time low.

Violent crime in the UK is higher then it is here by about double. They might not have as many guns as we do here but that doesn't stop the people with bad intentions. Violent crime in the UK is about double what it is here. Sure you have a better chance of being shot here, but you have a better chance of getting stabbed and robbed in the UK. I'll take my chances here!


In the UK...almost everything is considered a "violent crime."

Here you almost have to act like Hannibal Lecter to get included.

Anyway...I think Romeo should, as I said, lobby to get more guns into more hands so the UK can become safe like the US. Wink
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:13 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
In the UK...almost everything is considered a "violent crime."
Also in the UK, as well as Australia, seemingly no alleged problem is too trivial to avoid state intervention. These folks believe that good citizens are crafted by the state.
0 Replies
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:29 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Quote:
Only a tiny minority of Brit crims pack artillery, and usually only use them against rival gangs.
And most of their weapons are junk, picked up second-hand and worn out, or made by shady backstreet gunsmiths out of soft metal liable to jam or explode in the users hand. Ammo too is mostly unreliable and shoddily-made.


When your victims are carrying nothing at all a large knife will do very nicely as far as being armed.

Armed does not need to refer to only firearms.
0 Replies
 
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:32 pm
What do you think, Bill.

Shouldn't Romeo try to start a campaign to put more guns into the hands of more people in the UK...so the UK can become as safe for its citizens and the people who visit there...

...as the citizens of the US are...and the people who visit here?

Don't you think that a great idea?

And don't you think the people of the UK will see the great advantages of having more guns in the hands of more people...and support such a move?

SAFE LIKE US!
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:33 pm
@Frank Apisa,
How about you, David?
0 Replies
 
BillRM
 
  2  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:34 pm
@Frank Apisa,
One thing is damn sure Frank rapists are as safe as can be in England not even needing to worry about getting pepper spray in their eyes less alone getting hit by a stun gun or.........

Must be a big lobby in the English parliament looking after the welfare of rapists.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:38 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

One thing is damn sure Frank rapists are as safe as can be in England not even needing to worry about getting pepper spray in their eyes less alone getting hit by a stun gun or.........

Must be a big lobby in the English parliament looking after the welfare of rapists.


Well...it seems to me that the solid answer is to get more guns into the hands of more people...right?

Then they could be a lot safer...like we are.

And we can probably teach them a thing or three about how to eliminate rape as a crime also...right?
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:41 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I think I would begin small Frank with the right of women to carry token amounts of pepper spray and working up to stun guns in the UK.

Perhaps then taking the very high risk of allowing the UK Olympic pistol team to practice in the country instead of traveling to Spain or where ever.
Frank Apisa
 
  0  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 05:45 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

I think I would begin small Frank with the right of women to carry token amounts of pepper spray and working up to stun guns in the UK.

Perhaps then taking the very high risk of allowing the UK Olympic pistol team to practice in the country instead of traveling to Spain or where ever.


But you would be advocating that more guns in the hands of more people would make the UK safer. And that if enough guns were in the hands of enough people...the UK would become as safe as the US for its citizens and its visitors?

(HINT: Get as far away from this as possible, because the UK (or any country) taking advise from the US on safety...would be like Kiera Knightly taking advice from Chris Christie on how to say thin!)
0 Replies
 
glitterbag
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 06:38 pm
@Frank Apisa,
After listening to all the cooing over gun ownership, I think I'm reconsidering my position. Trayvon's parents should have given him a gun to carry, so that when he noticed a strange large man following him, he could have just shot George from a safer distance evoking his stand your ground right. Wouldn't that be a win win situation for gun rights advocates?
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 08:22 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:
After listening to all the cooing over gun ownership, I think I'm reconsidering my position. Trayvon's parents should have given him a gun to carry, so that when he noticed a strange large man following him, he could have just shot George from a safer distance evoking his stand your ground right. Wouldn't that be a win win situation for gun rights advocates?
He did not need anything from them. We saw the picture.
He already HAD a little pistol (it looked like an insignificant .25 maybe?),
but he did not have it with him when he needed it for his criminal activity.

Its better to HAVE a gun and not NEED it
than it is to NEED a gun and not HAVE it,
but he was already doing fine just smashing Zimmy 's head
against the street until his brain woud fall out. ( Zimmy voted for obama.)
Advocate
 
  1  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 09:01 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Trayvon just had the lousy luck to pick the wrong guy to beat up.

Trayvon was a racist, and most likely had no future as a happy and productive citizen.
OmSigDAVID
 
  3  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 09:05 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
Trayvon just had the lousy luck to pick the wrong guy to beat up.
Yea. It was like those Charles Atlas ads of the 1950s.
Advocate
 
  2  
Thu 13 Feb, 2014 09:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Advocate wrote:
Trayvon just had the lousy luck to pick the wrong guy to beat up.
Yea. It was like those Charles Atlas ads of the 1950s.


Right! With the proliferation of guns, one should not go out of his way to pick a fight.
 

Related Topics

 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.12 seconds on 11/16/2024 at 05:43:20