The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@MontereyJack,

LOL Trayvon is a victim without a mark on him but for the one bullet hole and Zimmerman the attacker somehow got a broken nose and wounds on the back of his head how very strange is that.

The so call attacker was the one on his cell phone trying to get the police on the scene and his poor victim with a cell phone of his own did not try to call the police.

What a very strange universe you and Firefly live in as no pounding of the facts to try to fit the facts into your worldview is too must.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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He looks white. If I saw him in the street,
it woud not occur to me to deem him non-white.

To me he look like what he happen to be a man of mixed race.

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google pictures of Zimmerman's dad and his mom sitting side by side, Bill. Both white.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

LOL Trayvon is a victim without a mark on him but for the one bullet hole
and Zimmerman the attacker somehow got a broken nose
and wounds on the back of his head how very strange is that.

The so call attacker was the one on his cell phone trying to get the police
on the scene and his poor victim with a cell phone of his own
did not try to call the police. [nor did he ask his friend on the fone to call 911]

What a very strange universe you and Firefly live in as no pounding
of the facts to try to fit the facts into your worldview is too must.

U bring out good, logical points, Bill.

The most exculpatory of all, in my opinion,
is that Zimmy WAS NOT GOING TO BE COMMITTING FELONIES
IN FRONT OF POLICE that he knew were coming because HE CALLED THEM.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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That is the reason
that Sharpton got on his case.

The news reports at first stated falsely that he was white that is why Sharpton came running and then the news media instead of correcting the statement to that he is of mixed race they instead started labeling him as a white Latin.

He is of white, black and native south american blood.

It would seems hard to be a racist when you have so many difference blood lines in your family tree.

By the way David if you happen to had seen Zimmerman mother on the street would you think she is white?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGkQ0GeKgMCI_Qo4CdWVIFLYZjiEhKuleQcUe7128iuRnIW4jV

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To my mind, it remains ASTONISHING
that this incident was ever criminally prosecuted,
except in furtherance of the Republican governor 's desire to avoid race riots.

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@MontereyJack,

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google pictures of Zimmerman's dad and his mom sitting side by side, Bill. Both white

You think for a moment that Zimmerman mother look white!!!!!!!!!!!

My my and here the lady could not even site down at a white only lunch counter before the civil right movement change that.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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Apart from punching a white man to the floor then jumping on him and cracking his head into the cement

Those are not statements of fact--there is no physical or medical evidence, at all, to support the assertion that Zimmerman experienced any head-pounding let alone any "cracking his head into the cement".

Not only did Zimmerman's very minor injuries not support that assertion, the physical evidence presented at trial actually indicated the confrontation likely occurred on grass and not on cement. That would account for why none of Zimmerman's blood was found on the cement sidewalk--and he was bleeding from the two tiny scratches on the back of his head--and why Martin's body was not found on the sidewalk or right next to it.

It's amazing that all of the Zimmerman supporters in this thread, who claim to know exactly what happened, never actually watched the trial... Rolling Eyes

And that defense animation you keep posting is not a factual representation of what took place--it was a defense exhibit clearly intended to be misleading for the jury. The area was almost pitch black and not illuminated as shown in the animation, and no witness had a clear view of what was taking place. And no witness was present when the shot was actually fired.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that this wasn't a situation where Zimmerman was walking around, minding his own business, when suddenly some "thug" attacked him out-of-the blue. Martin was the one who was simply walking around minding his own business, when a stranger, for no reason could have been apparent to Martin, began pursuing him through the darkness, without ever identifying himself or his motives to the teen, who had to be apprehensive about why this man was pursuing him. The one who was behaving like some "thug" was George Zimmerman.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

BillRM wrote:
LOL Trayvon is a victim without a mark on him but for the one bullet hole
and Zimmerman the attacker somehow got a broken nose
and wounds on the back of his head how very strange is that.

The so call attacker was the one on his cell phone trying to get the police
on the scene and his poor victim with a cell phone of his own
did not try to call the police. [nor did he ask his friend on the fone to call 911]

What a very strange universe you and Firefly live in as no pounding
of the facts to try to fit the facts into your worldview is too must.

U bring out good, logical points, Bill.

The most exculpatory of all, in my opinion,
is that Zimmy WAS NOT GOING TO BE COMMITTING FELONIES
IN FRONT OF POLICE that he knew were coming because HE CALLED THEM.

David

Perhaps that is why he got them done BEFORE the police got there!

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@firefly,

You're trying to have a discussion with people who only have imagination and lacking any factual information. "Cracking his head" is nowhere to be found in the media or trial. They're just idiots wasting cyber space with stupid statements they use to back up their criminal, Zimmerman. They're wasted humans with values that belongs in our mental institutions and prisons.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

By the way David if you happen to had seen Zimmerman mother on the street would you think she is white?

Yes, Bill. To me she looks like a white from South America.

I woud never, never have characterized Mrs. Zimmerman as appearing black.

I thought that u were being too hard on Mrs. Zimmerman !

David

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Quote:

Apart from punching a white man to the floor then jumping on him and cracking his head into the cement

Those are not statements of fact--there is no physical or medical evidence, at all, to support the assertion that Zimmerman experienced any head-pounding let alone any "cracking his head into the cement".

Not only did Zimmerman's very minor injuries not support that assertion, the physical evidence presented at trial actually indicated the confrontation likely occurred on grass and not on cement. That would account for why none of Zimmerman's blood was found on the cement sidewalk--and he was bleeding from the two tiny scratches on the back of his head--and why Martin's body was not found on the sidewalk or right next to it.

It's amazing that all of the Zimmerman supporters in this thread, who claim to know exactly what happened, never actually watched the trial... Rolling Eyes

And that defense animation you keep posting is not a factual representation of what took place--it was a defense exhibit clearly intended to be misleading for the jury. The area was almost pitch black and not illuminated as shown in the animation, and no witness had a clear view of what was taking place. And no witness was present when the shot was actually fired.

Also, you seem to have forgotten that this wasn't a situation where Zimmerman was walking around, minding his own business, when suddenly some "thug" attacked him out-of-the blue. Martin was the one who was simply walking around minding his own business, when a stranger, for no reason that could have been apparent to Martin, began pursuing him through the darkness, without ever identifying himself or his motives to the teen, who had to be apprehensive about why this man was pursuing him. The one who was behaving like some "thug" was George Zimmerman.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Lord she have members of her family tree as black as a piece of coal and if you do not consider her of mixed race but white then I am assuming you do not view Obama with a similar skin color as black either?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjDqUg9ZH6X44IdFs6pzBya0CTkoAu8VjrGrMFirhI2GEswyUKFfZ2jw

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTUTf1F6uFZ0s9AAslrfKXriNTTGjTOsMh5aDAKkYu-p_zH0uy

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@Frank Apisa,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

BillRM wrote:
LOL Trayvon is a victim without a mark on him but for the one bullet hole
and Zimmerman the attacker somehow got a broken nose
and wounds on the back of his head how very strange is that.

The so call attacker was the one on his cell phone trying to get the police
on the scene and his poor victim with a cell phone of his own
did not try to call the police. [nor did he ask his friend on the fone to call 911]

What a very strange universe you and Firefly live in as no pounding
of the facts to try to fit the facts into your worldview is too must.

U bring out good, logical points, Bill.

The most exculpatory of all, in my opinion,
is that Zimmy WAS NOT GOING TO BE COMMITTING FELONIES
IN FRONT OF POLICE that he knew were coming because HE CALLED THEM.

David

Frank Apisa wrote:

Perhaps that is why he got them
done BEFORE the police got there!

Zimmy had no way of knowing whether the police
were looking at him, as he was screaming
(in addition to any number of nabors both outside
and from inside thru windows).

All he knew was that the police WERE COMING.
He did not know whether thay were near or far or videotaping.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Perhaps that is why he got them
done BEFORE the police got there!

So, u tell us that Zimmy was not really INTERESTED
in Martin's slamming Zimmy's head on the cement, right??? U tell us that he did NOT CARE?????

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@OmSigDAVID,

It seems as though the pro-Martin people are living in a different dimension, dreaming up their own nonfacts. Happily, the jury got the correct facts and quickly acquitted Zim.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

It seems as though the pro-Martin people are living in a different dimension,
dreaming up their own nonfacts. Happily, the jury got the correct facts and quickly acquitted Zim.

Yes; that 's the important thing.

David

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@cicerone imposter,

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You're trying to have a discussion with people who only have imagination and lacking any factual information. "Cracking his head" is nowhere to be found in the media or trial. They're just idiots wasting cyber space with stupid statements they use to back up their criminal, Zimmerman

CI, I feel it goes way beyond that. The racist thinking, and the manufactured character assassination of Martin, that permeates their posts is stomach-turning.

Zimmerman was the one with a past history of documented aggressive behavior, and he had been court-ordered to take anger management, which, unfortunately, seems to have done him no good. Trayvon Martin had absolutely no history of aggressive behaviors toward others--none.

The fact remains that Trayon Martin was doing nothing wrong that night, nothing at all to justify being hunted down, and menaced, by a wannabe cop who had inaccurately racially profiled him as a criminal "suspect" who was "up to no good". Trying to inaccurately, and rather maliciously, turn this teen into a "thug" or "hoodlum", in order to try to whitewash Zimmerman's impaired judgment and lack of impulse control, is clearly racist on the part of these posters.

I am so offended by the racist thinking in this thread I'm seriously considering either leaving A2K or just sticking to the game threads. These out-and-out bigots are not people I want to have any association with.

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@firefly,

Quote:

You're trying to have a discussion with people who only have imagination and lacking any factual information. "Cracking his head" is nowhere to be found in the media or trial. They're just idiots wasting cyber space with stupid statements they use to back up their criminal, Zimmerman

firefly wrote:

CI, I feel it goes way beyond that. The racist thinking, and the manufactured character assassination of Martin, that permeates their posts is stomach-turning.

Zimmerman was the one with a past history of documented aggressive behavior, and he had been court-ordered to take anger management, which, unfortunately, seems to have done him no good. Trayvon Martin had absolutely no history of aggressive behaviors toward others--none.

The fact remains that Trayon Martin was doing nothing wrong that night, nothing at all to justify being hunted down, and menaced, by a wannabe cop who had inaccurately racially profiled him as a criminal "suspect" who was "up to no good". Trying to inaccurately, and rather maliciously, turn this teen into a "thug" or "hoodlum", in order to try to whitewash Zimmerman's impaired judgment and lack of impulse control, is clearly racist on the part of these posters.

I am so offended by the racist thinking in this thread I'm seriously considering either leaving A2K or just sticking to the game threads. These out-and-out bigots are not people I want to have any association with.

I 'd have said the same things,
if Martin had been a white,
but if he 'd been a white, then there is NO CHANCE at all
that Sharpton or Jesse Jackson woud have commented anything about it.

I can even go a step further, in the fullness of candor, sincerity and good faith:
in support of principles of self defense, if the roles of Zimmy and Martin
had been REVERSED, then I 'd have been rooting against the white.

David

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@firefly,

Yeah, I try not to waste time with bigots of any color. These guys supporting Zimmerman are trash of the worst kind; they demean a kid who was killed for no justifiable reason. They make every attempt to dig up dirt on the kid, while ignoring all the media and police record on Zimmerman. TNCFS

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Quote:
You're trying to have a discussion with people who only have imagination and lacking any factual information. "Cracking his head" is nowhere to be found in the media or trial. They're just idiots wasting cyber space with stupid statements they use to back up their criminal, Zimmerman

CI, I feel it goes way beyond that. The racist thinking, and the manufactured character assassination of Martin, that permeates their posts is stomach-turning.

Zimmerman was the one with a past history of documented aggressive behavior, and he had been court-ordered to take anger management, which, unfortunately, seems to have done him no good. Trayvon Martin had absolutely no history of aggressive behaviors toward others--none.

The fact remains that Trayon Martin was doing nothing wrong that night, nothing at all to justify being hunted down, and menaced, by a wannabe cop who had inaccurately racially profiled him as a criminal "suspect" who was "up to no good". Trying to inaccurately, and rather maliciously, turn this teen into a "thug" or "hoodlum", in order to try to whitewash Zimmerman's impaired judgment and lack of impulse control, is clearly racist on the part of these posters.

I am so offended by the racist thinking in this thread I'm seriously considering either leaving A2K or just sticking to the game threads. These out-and-out bigots are not people I want to have any association with.

Martin was no angel. He had built up quite a record for a 17-year-old, which seemed to say that his future would be living in a prison or killed by someone. Please see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

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