The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@firefly,

You are sayig a lot of things for which there is no proof. Your credibility is zilch.

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@firefly,

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It looks like all those THREATS from the blacks
against Zimmy 's life, were a bunch of lies.

firefly wrote:

Well, it was Zimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman, Jr. who promoted all those lies.

No. The TV news pundits
said that the threats flooded the social media.
Its mildly amusing that the blacks don t care when a black gets killed,
as long as another black kills him, but when a white does it,
then we get this; funnny.

firefly wrote:

Lying seems second nature to the Zimmermans. You do remember the elaborate scheme George Zimmerman concocted to conceal his assets from the judge presiding over his bail hearing, don't you? He had no compunctions about lying directly to the court, or to his own attorney.

I did not bother with those; un-related to homicide,
just a matter of bail. I don t care about that.

firefly wrote:

And Zimmerman's version of the events surrounding his killing of Trayvon Martin had numerous inconsistencies and assertions which conflicted with the physical evidence and suggested, to the police, and to the prosecutor, that he was exaggerating, embellishing, and lying, about what actually took place.

Is that Y thay set him free????

DAVID wrote:

So now, those of us in Florida have one fewer
violent street thug to endanger us.

firefly wrote:

No, unfortunately, George Zimmerman, the thug with a long documented history
of violent behaviors, the one a Police Chief described as "a ticking time bomb", is still walking the streets.

Even tho he was an obama voter, I 'd like to meet him,
go target shooting, maybe a good Florida restaurant for dinner.
He seems to be a good fellow,
tho his taste in defensive ordnance is questionable.

I 'd try to convince him that revolvers r better.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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firefly wrote:
Of course, if Zimmerman had remained in his car,
the confrontation would not have happened.
Of course, Zimmy had NO REASON to stay in his car.
Does Firefly always stay in her car???
Is she still in there now???

Let see if the victim had not walk down a dark street in a short dress by herself she would not had been attacked and raped either by the same strange logic.

If the victim place him or herself at added risks by some action or other then it is the victim fault that he or she is attacked.

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@cicerone imposter,

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All these people you're trying to have an intelligent discussion with is a total waste of time!

It is amazing how they completely disregard all of the evidence that calls into question the credibility of Zimmerman's version of events the night he killed Trayvon Martin.

They have never had an interest in an intelligent discussion regarding that legal case--most of them never watched the trial or even bothered to familiarize themselves with the evidence supporting the state's case. For them, it's all about the guns, and promoting the NRA party line. Not only do they not care that an innocent teen was needlessly pursued and killed by an emotionally disturbed wannabe cop, they really don't give a damn about George Zimmerman either.

They seem fixated on rehashing their one-sided version of the killing of Martin, and can't seem to move beyond that to look at how Zimmerman has been acting since his acquittal--his many run-ins with the police, over both traffic infractions, like speeding and covering his license tags, as well as his provocative domestic violence incidents and threats. He has also continued to provoke by posing for photos at a gun factory, and by trying to sell "original artwork" based on his copying other people's copyrighted photos, and by his latest scheme to take part in a celebrity boxing match with a black opponent.

The one thing about Zimmerman that's clearly striking is his inability to stop provoking others as well as his disregard for lawful behavior, including basic traffic laws and copyright laws. That he disregarded appropriate behavior for a neighborhood watch volunteer, and behaved in an extremely provocative fashion toward Martin, before killing the teen, is part of a pattern he has continued since his acquittal--he is an instigator, a continual provocateur, and that sort of behavior has already resulted in one needless death. It may be that he will continue doing this sort of thing until he finally provokes someone into killing him or until he finally winds up behind bars.

He certainly can't stop seeking media attention. Given that his only claim to fame/notoriety is the fact he killed an unarmed minor, his attempts to capitalize on his "celebrity" status, both with his rather primitive "artwork" and a tacky boxing match couldn't be less savory--he is trying to profit from the tragic and avoidable death he caused. He appears to have no decency at all.

I'd like to see the media completely ignore him and stop feeding this insignificant sociopath's sense of self-importance. They finally do seem to be moving in that direction. I hope it continues.

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@firefly,

Me too!

One thing is for sure; most people who have followed Zim already know he's a loose cannon, and not worth all the press he's been enjoying - for all the wrong things.

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@cicerone imposter,

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most people who have followed Zim already know he's a loose cannon, and not worth all the press he's been enjoying

I think you should go after the media, not Zimmerman. Then take care of the idiots who keep talking about it like it is going to change.

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@BillRM,

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If the victim place him or herself at added risks by some action or other then it is the victim fault that he or she is attacked.

The only "risk" that Trayvon Martin unknowingly took was being a black teen in George Zimmerman's line of sight the night Zimmerman spotted him.

And it certainly wasn't Martin's "fault" that Zimmerman erroneously racially profiled and pursued him.

You blame victims all the time--according to you, intoxicated women who get raped are responsible for their sexual assaults. And you've repeatedly tried to blame Martin, and even his parents, for his death.

Martin was targeted by Zimmerman only because of the color of his skin--he was doing nothing criminal or "suspicious"--he was simply walking around talking on his cell phone, in a place he had a legitimate right to be. It was Zimmerman who was predisposed to see any black young male as a criminal type, and that significantly distorted his perception of totally innocuous behavior on Martin's part. And it was his pre-existing animosity toward young black males, and his personal need to play wannabe cop, that impelled this emotionally disturbed man to hunt this innocent teen down.

You've never been able to recognize or acknowledge the racial elements that led to this needless death, and that may have even played a part in the jury's verdict. Your own racial biases and racist attitudes seem to clearly influence such denial.

Trayvon Martin was targeted by Zimmerman because he was black--something the defense even tacitly acknowledged during the trial. His needless and avoidable death was caused by George Zimmerman's poor judgment and lack of self-control.

And Zimmerman has continued to display his poor judgment, impulsivity, and tendencies to provoke, since his acquittal.

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@cicerone imposter,

He sure is a loose cannon as he will killed to defend his own life if need be.

Then most of the human race are in fact loose cannons in the same manner.

As far as being a loose cannon in any other way he had not be convicted of one crime in his life.

Beside having taken his free time to aid his neighbors in crime watch had taken his time to mentor fatherless black children and pressure the justice system to grant justice to a homeless black man beaten up by the son of a white cop.

All in all a fine gentleman and neighbor.

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@firefly,

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Trayvon Martin was targeted by Zimmerman because he was black--something the defense even tacitly acknowledged during the trial.

Impossible to prove and it only damages any progress in getting away from racism, and looking at the facts. To keep talking about the incident is keeping racism alive. I know it gives you something to do.

Try gardening.

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@BillRM,

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All in all a fine gentleman and neighbor.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-xyjItOTVhk/Ry8Fzdkcz0I/AAAAAAAAAFo/bpfHvV6jDQ4/s320/LaughingMouse.gif

I don't know about Zimmerman, but you're definitely a shmuck. Laughing

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@cicerone imposter,

In real life I rarely encounter people as dimwitted and shallow as this group of misfits. It's kind of interesting to see this sort. They seem to have no awareness of what kinds of buffoons they make of themselves in their pathetic attempts to defend the continually questionable actions of an emotionally disturbed sociopath like George Zimmerman.

The same might be said of George Zimmerman and his proposed celebrity boxing match. Laughing

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@firefly,

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In real life I rarely encounter people as dimwitted and shallow as this group of misfits.

I have heard about people with no mirrors in their homes. Laughing

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@coldjoint,

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Re: firefly (Post 5574363)
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Trayvon Martin was targeted by Zimmerman because he was black--something the defense even tacitly acknowledged during the trial.

Impossible to prove and it only damages any progress in getting away from racism, and looking at the facts. To keep talking about the incident is keeping racism alive. I know it gives you something to do.

Try gardening.

LOL even the police including a black police officer who first check into the shooting did not think Zimmerman focus on Trayvon for racial reasons.

Beside the annoying fact for the Fireflies of the world that Zimmerman is of mixed blood including black blood and an army of FBI agents could not find any indication that Zimmerman had a racial bone in his body.

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@BillRM,

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and an army of FBI agents could not find any indication that Zimmerman had a racial bone in his body.

No, that's not true at all. What they couldn't find was evidence that this killing met the standard of a federal hate crime act.

That doesn't mean that Martin wasn't the victim of Zimmerman's racial profiling, or that Zimmerman targeted him because of his own pre-existing animosity toward black males he spotted in and around his housing complex.
It just means the actual killing might not have been an act motivated mainly by racial hatred.

Both of Zimmerman's parents have voiced negative attitudes toward blacks--previously cited in this thread--and these are the people who raised him. Zimmerman's brother, Robert, Jr., tried to smear Trayvon Martin with racist Tweets--for which he later had to apologize.

And that story about Zimmerman rushing to the defense of the homeless black man has been pretty much discredited--and that's been previously cited in this thread as well. But, given your inability to absorb new information, or to consider conflicting information, you continue to mindlessly regurgitate it anyway.

Your view of Zimmerman as not having engaged in racial profiling is simply wishful thinking on your part. That's not surprising given your own racist attitudes that you've repeatedly voiced in this thread.

You're simply a shmuck. And you keep proving just how much of a shmuck you are. Laughing

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

That doesn't mean that Martin wasn't the victim of Zimmerman's racial profiling

Zimmy 's naborhood was plagued by black burglars.
That was not guesswork; it was a known fact.
He was not going to be looking for Chinamen.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

You're simply a shmuck.
And you keep proving just how much of a shmuck you are.

ALWAYS with the phallic references, huh??
U just can t get away from that.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Zimmy 's naborhood was plagued by black burglars.
That was not guesswork; it was a known fact.
He was not going to be looking for Chinamen.

Then you acknowledge Zimmerman racially profiled Martin.

The fact that a few burglaries had been committed by blacks hardly means all blacks should be regarded as criminals or potential criminals--that borders on the irrational.

Zimmerman wasn't a security guard, he shouldn't have been "looking for anyone". And 7 pm on a Sunday night--a time when most people are at home, or out walking their dogs, etc.--is a very unlikely time for any burglaries to take place.

Trayvon Martin was doing nothing criminal, or remotely criminal--he was walking around talking on a cell phone--absolutely normal behavior--and he was not a trespasser in that complex, he was the house guest of a resident. He did nothing, absolutely nothing, to justify being stalked and hunted down like prey.

The alleged "suspiciousness" and the compulsion to trail his "suspect" all emanated from the mind of the emotionally unstable, and reckless, wannabe cop who pursued him, in defiance of neighborhood watch rules, and the advisement of the police dispatcher. And, in doing so, Zimmerman brought about the needless and avoidable death of a teen who was simply on his way back from a trip to the store.

Zimmerman had other, much more appropriate options, than the course of action he took. When he first saw Martin he could have driven over to him, introduced himself, and asked him if he needed any help if he thought Martin was acting oddly. And certainly, after placing his call to the police, he could have, and should have, either remained in his car to wait for them, or simply driven off and continued to his destination--there was nothing urgent going on, he had witnessed no crime in progress, and there was nothing that logically required any further intervention on his part.

It's a tragedy that, even within the confines of a middle-class private gated community, young black men in this country can't safely walk around without fears that the mere sight of their skin color will arouse some white nut's anger and suspicions. Trayvon Martin was minding his own business and not bothering anyone. Unfortunately, George Zimmerman was too impulse-ridden, and his judgment too impaired, for him to be able to do the same after he placed his call to the police.

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@firefly,

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Then you acknowledge Zimmerman racially profiled Martin.

Maybe he did not, but I doubt that he is that stupid.

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@firefly,

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Richard Mantel, a state prosecutor, told Judge Debra Nelson the calls would show Mr Zimmerman had a record of "profiling" and had a "building level of frustration" about crime in his area.
In one call Mr Zimmerman made to police earlier in February 2012, he reported seeing a black man going through a neighbour's bins. "I know the resident. He's caucasian," he told the dispatcher.

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If we saw a white catholic priest acting suspiciously in a neighbourhood at night we'd certainly challenge him; so why shouldn't black hoodies like Martin be challenged too?

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