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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:59 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
trying to set Travon to rights is why pops went to bed knowing that travon did not come home to watch the game as planned, did not know where Travon was, and made zero effort to find out.....

I've already told you that isn't true. So why are you flat out lying?
Do u think that it might be that he does NOT believe u, Firefly??

Are u under the impression
that we accept u as being the Fountain of Truth??

WE DON T.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Stop blaming a guy for defending his life. There is no blame.

Then stop blaming Trayvon Martin for the fact that Zimmerman racially profiled him, and needlessly stalked him in the dark, never once identifying himself. For all Martin knew, Zimmerman was a crazed criminal.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:03 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

You are a dumb dumb. Spock is half Human and half Vulcan. His mother being the human and his father being the Vulcan. Spock has suppressed his human emotions in favor of his Vulcan up bringing. Well mostly suppressed.

What you also don't realize is that the Vulcan's practice Pon Farr: Every seven years, Vulcan males and females become aroused. They undergo a blood fever, become violent, and finally die unless they mate with someone with whom they are emphatically bonded or engage in the ritual battle known as kal-if-fee.

I can't believe I just had to geek out like that on A2K. First time for everything I guess.


Way ta go, Baldimo.

Wow!

I loved it.
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:04 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
For all Martin knew, Zimmerman was a crazed criminal.


All Trayvon was worrying about was getting high.
firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Do u think that it might be that he does NOT believe u, Firefly??

I think he has absolutely no reason to believe his totally unfounded assumptions about Tracey Martin's behavior--Martin has explained how he acted that night, when he found his son wasn't at home, and I previously posted links to that.

As far as I am concerned, he's repeating lies. And I couldn't care less whether either of you believe me.

BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:07 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
stop blaming a guy for defending his life. There is no blame. Just a frenzy stirred up to divide people even more, and give hypocrites, like you, the spotlight.


Could not agree with you more with special note of your comment concerning Firefly.
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Baldimo
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:07 pm
@firefly,
It always comes down to this doesn't. Zimmerman had all the responsibility and Martin has none. Where does Martin's self control come into play?

I guess the next time someone follows me and I don't like it, I can turn around and just start hitting them?
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:08 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
It's interesting, in the very peculiar Q & A on the ebay listing page, that Zimmerman says no money from the sale of the painting will go to pay Mark O'Mara. That should really sit well with O'Mara. The man helps Zimmerman beat a murder rap, but Zimmerman doesn't seem to think he owes him anything.
Art does not mean much to me; I ve never cared about it,
but I 'd be more inclined to bid (to support Zimmy), knowing that
my payment wud not go to O Mara. I don t think much of him.
He won that case because it was so E Z. A chimp cud have won.
In my opinion, most criminal lawyers wud have done a better job than O Mara.
It was only prosecuted because the RINO Governor was afraid of race riots, not on the merit of the case.





David
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:11 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
It was only prosecuted because the RINO Governor was afraid of race riots, not on the merit of the case.


Liberals are intimidated by violence. That is why Islam thrives.
coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:12 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
I guess the next time someone follows me and I don't like it, I can turn around and just start hitting them?


Better hope they don't have a gun.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
It was only prosecuted because the RINO Governor was afraid of race riots, not on the merit of the case.


Do not forget the Federal government was also putting on pressure to have Zimmerman charge also.

Even going so far to picked up some of the tabs for the rallies where Sharpton and such was threatening to riot.
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firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:18 pm
@Baldimo,
Quote:
Zimmerman had all the responsibility and Martin has none...

He was the one stalking someone...with a gun.

It was Zimmerman who created, and instigated the entire encounter, and did nothing to try to defuse it by identifying himself...

That's the police investigation conclusion as well. And they did blame Zimmerman for that, and they also concluded that Martin had done nothing "suspicious" and that Zimmerman had distorted and misjudged Martin's very normal behaviors.

Martin had no idea who Zimmerman was, what his motives were, or what Zimmerman might do to him...he was the one being stalked in the dark for no apparent reason. And, yes, a person, like Trayvon Martin, or anyone else, has a right to react in self-defense in that kind of threatening situation.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:20 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
It was only prosecuted because the RINO Governor was afraid of race riots, not on the merit of the case.


Liberals are intimidated by violence. That is why Islam thrives.

conservatives and liberals are intimidated by violence, which is why we have an illegal prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. That is why why have an abusive and illegal NSA. The terrorists have won.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:21 pm
@firefly,
DAVID wrote:
Do u think that it might be that he does NOT believe u, Firefly??
firefly wrote:

I think he has absolutely no reason to believe his totally unfounded assumptions about Tracey Martin's behavior--Martin has explained how he acted that night, when he found his son wasn't at home, and I previously posted links to that.

As far as I am concerned, he's repeating lies. And I couldn't care less whether either of you believe me.
IF u don t care,
then Y did u bother to post?????

The tenor of your post was that u had already told him something,
and therefore he was lying by posting inconsistently with what u said.

That woud be true,
IF he accepted dicta from U as being the Definition of Truth.

NOT all of us DO.
RABEL222
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:22 pm
@Baldimo,
Expanding the fantasy world you live in?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:23 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
It was only prosecuted because the RINO Governor was afraid of race riots, not on the merit of the case.


Liberals are intimidated by violence.
That is why Islam thrives.
That also applied to communism,
before the end of the 3rd World War on Christmas of 1991.





David
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Baldimo
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:26 pm
@RABEL222,
Which world would that be Rabel? The world in which it is ok to start throwing blows at someone for following you?
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firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
IF u don t care,
then Y did u bother to post?????

I post for my own reasons, to express my own thinking. It's rare that either you or Hawkeye actually say anything worth my consideration. And I really don't care whether either of you believe what I say, or even bother to read it.
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Advocate
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:29 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
The TM folks tells us that he was a fine person and student. But please see:...

And you think Zimmerman was a fine upstanding citizen, but let's see...

Zimmerman was arrested for assaulting a law enforcement officer, and court-ordered to take anger management classes to avoid a trial, and his ex-fiancée obtained a retraining order against him for domestic violence, and he got fired from a part time job providing security at private parties because he was "too aggressive". --and he wasn't a barely 17 year old kid at the time--these were his adult behaviors. And these aren't rumors, or lies.

Let's not also forget that a police force turned him down as an unsuitable applicant.

And the police investigation concluded that Trayvon Martin had done nothing wrong or "suspicious" when George Zimmerman spotted him, erroneously judged him, and began stalking him...It was Zimmerman, and only Zimmerman, who instigated and provoked the encounter that led to a needless and totally avoidable death.

Trayvon Martin was on his way back to the residence he was staying at, looking forward to watching a basketball game on TV, when George Zimmerman, with impaired judgment, decided he was "a suspect", and with even poorer judgment, and impulse control, began stalking the kid in the dark..

If George Zimmerman had remained in his car, or, probably, if he had even identified himself, there would have been no confrontation, and no one would have gotten hurt...Zimmerman brought about the entire encounter...and he caused a needless, avoidable, tragic death.

And since Zimmerman chalks it all up, not to his behavior, and poor judgment, but rather to "God's plan," it's entirely possible, given his lack of insight, that he will act that recklessly again, and he'll cause another needless death.

And he has had repeated run-ins with the police since his acquittal.

It's only a matter of time until his next one...




I never claimed that GZ was a model citizen. But you were claiming such for TM. In fact, he had serious brushes with authorities, was a truant, etc. I just wanted to show that you were lying about TM's background.

hawkeye10
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 03:31 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Martin had no idea who Zimmerman was, what his motives were, or what Zimmerman might do to him...he was the one being stalked in the dark for no apparent reason. And, yes, a person, like Trayvon Martin, or anyone else, has a right to react in self-defense in that kind of threatening situation.

it is too bad that you are not part of the civilized camp....you should consider joining us in condemning all violence labeled as self defense that is not based upon a reasonable rational evaluation of the situation. A 17 year old of any color when visiting a neighborhood and confronted by an older man asking his business should be respectful, and should probably answer the questions. he should not jump to the conclusion that anyone interested in him is a fag rapist.
 

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