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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
Baldimo
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 12:59 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
You are a dumb dumb. Spock is half Human and half Vulcan. His mother being the human and his father being the Vulcan. Spock has suppressed his human emotions in favor of his Vulcan up bringing. Well mostly suppressed.

What you also don't realize is that the Vulcan's practice Pon Farr: Every seven years, Vulcan males and females become aroused. They undergo a blood fever, become violent, and finally die unless they mate with someone with whom they are emphatically bonded or engage in the ritual battle known as kal-if-fee.

I can't believe I just had to geek out like that on A2K. First time for everything I guess.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:01 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
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because his alien DNA is programmed not to respond to earth women.


Strange as he is half human with a human mother so your argument base on a science fiction TV show does not even hold water......LOL

Second comment the very subject of this thread is of mixed race including black blood in his veins.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:06 pm
I know Spock's half-human but so what? It's only his alien half that doesn't want Nursy!
Likewise I feel no attraction towards any woman who's half-black or half-any other colour because my DNA is telling me to save my precious sperm for only all-white women..Smile
Baldimo
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:12 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Well you enjoy your pasty family.

I was/still am married to a woman who is half black/half white. I have to say, I have some of the best looking kids around. In fact some of the best looking kids I have seen belong to mixed couples. White babies just look funny.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:12 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
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telling me to save my precious sperm for only all-white women.


I am sure that is breaking the hearts of all women who are not "white" and thrilling the "white" women of the world.
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MontereyJack
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:13 pm
Romeo Fabulini asks"
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Is there something wrong with my DNA programming?

Yes.
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firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
Trayvon Martin's parents would be exactly the kind of people that Bill Cosby would point to as an example of what other black parents should be doing.

For one thing, both of them were involved in their child's life--he had a father who was very much a part of his life, and who imparted real values to him, and expected him to live by them, and his mother did the same. Like Cosby, Martin's parents valued and promoted education for their children--Martin's mother is a college graduate, and his older brother is a college senior.

And they fully expected, and wanted, Trayvon to follow in his brother's footsteps and go on to college as well, and that goal was shared by Trayvon as well. That's why his parents were upset that he was goofing around in his new school, they were trying to get him to settle down and focus on his schoolwork--these people value education, and they wanted their child to have a successful future.

Part of the tragedy for black parents like that is, no matter what they did, to try to raise a decent child with good values and goals in life, a neighborhood watch volunteer took one look at him, one dark evening in February 2012, and all he saw was "a f---ing punk."

That's tragic. Hawkeye, it really is. And that's what's really wrong, and harmful, about racial profiling.

And these parents have dealt with this tragedy with such dignity, and grace, and lack of hatred, that it is truly remarkable. They have started a foundation in their son's memory and they are trying to make something good come out of his needless death.

I read this week that Martin's parents have been meeting with publishers regarding a book, and that there is great interest in their book, and their story, of how they have coped with the soul searing tragedy in their lives, and the vilification and character assassination of their son that has been promoted all over the internet, by right-wing sites such as Conservative Treehouse, and by the misguided Zimmerman supporters in this thread. That they lost their son is bad enough, these parents have also been brutally assaulted with all kinds of lies and distortions about their child, and that must be incredibly difficult for them to tolerate.

So, I'm sure that their book will be published, and I'm sure there will be great interest in it, and perhaps it will also turn in a film. I hope so. I am interested in their story, and I wish them great success with the endeavor. And I'm sure Bill Cosby does too--he knows what it's like to lose a son. His son Ennis was the victim of a homicide, also committed by a white man.

Baldimo
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:25 pm
@firefly,
Remind me again why Martin was staying with his dad and not his mom? He was kicked out of school was he not? Since he was kicked out of school why wasn't he grounded? My kid was kicked out of school once several years ago, and I wouldn't let him leave the house for anything. The family went somewhere, he went somewhere, the family stayed home, he stayed home. There was no going out on his own, he was in trouble and going down to the store was out of the question.





cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:28 pm
@Baldimo,
Whether Trayvon was kicked out of school has absolutely nothing to do with Zimmerman killing him. NOTHING!

Your imagination is working over-time.

You don't go around killing anyone, a young teenager, then dig into their background to see if they were kicked out of school.

Only crazy people like you do!
Baldimo
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It is not the be all and end all of the situation but if he was kicked out of school why wasn't he grounded? What kind of parent lets their children out and about when they are in trouble? That doesn't sound like a responsible parent to me. It sounds like a parent who lets their child do what they want because it is easier to let them do what they want then take them to task for their mistakes.

CI you can get on my case all you want to, but that is the situation. Kid kicked out of school is allowed to do as he pleases?
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firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:50 pm
@Baldimo,
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Remind me again why Martin was staying with his dad and not his mom? He was kicked out of school was he not? Since he was kicked out of school why wasn't he grounded?

Trayvon Martin's mother worked full time, that's why he wasn't staying with her then. He was with his father so his dad could "talk some sense" into him.

Trayvon Martin's father chose to remove his son from his usual surroundings and friends. He took him away from Miami Gardens. He didn't want him hanging out at home, even in his room, with his usual stuff, enjoying himself. Trayvon didn't get into trouble outside the home when he wasn't in school. He had no need to worry about what Trayvon would be doing while he and his fiancée went out for dinner. He likely knew Trayvon would be watching a basketball game on TV. He would have had no need to prevent Trayvon from going to a 7/11 store for some snacks.

Different parents discipline differently. You wouldn't let your kid leave the house for anything, and Hawkeye beat his kid with a belt. There's nothing wrong with the way Tracey Martin chose to handle it.

None of this changes the fact that George Zimmerman erroneously profiled Trayvon Martin, and misinterpreted Martin's normal behaviors--walking around, looking around, talking on a cell phone--as something "suspicious"--and he wound up initiating and bringing about a totally needless and avoidable encounter by stalking/following/trailing him, and by failing to ever identify himself--and, in doing that, Zimmerman brought about a needless and avoidable death.

Trayvon Martin just wanted to get home in time to watch that basketball game.

BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 01:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Whether Trayvon was kicked out of school has absolutely nothing to do with Zimmerman killing him. NOTHING!



The character or lack of same of Trayvon and his actions before the killing have nothing to do with the fate he met that night for some strange reason in your opinion?

I myself was raised in a manner that there is no way on this earth as a young man I would have gotten into a conflict with Zimmerman or any other person doing crime watch.

What we now know of Trayvon however there seem little reason indeed to question that he was the type of person who would attacked Zimmerman as Zimmerman stated he did.


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hawkeye10
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:08 pm
@firefly,
trying to set Travon to rights is why pops went to bed knowing that travon did not come home to watch the game as planned, did not know where Travon was, and made zero effort to find out.....

right up to the end travon was handicapped by having neglectful parents, who are now shopping a victim story book to milk travons death for yet more profit.
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
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trying to set Travon to rights is why pops went to bed knowing that travon did not come home to watch the game as planned, did not know where Travon was, and made zero effort to find out.....


He did not even try calling Trayvon cell phone Hawkeye when he did not show up?

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right up to the end travon was handicapped by having neglectful parents, who are now shopping a victim story book to milk travons death for yet more profit


Did they not trade mark their dead son name almost at once?
BillRM
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:25 pm
@BillRM,
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/sybrina-fulton-trademarks_n_1382491.html

The mother of slain teenager Trayvon Martin is seeking trademarks for two phrases that have become associated with the movement surrounding her son's death.

The Smoking Gun reports that Sybrina Fulton filed two applications for trademarks of the phrases, "I Am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon."

Some Smoking Gun commenters seem to think the move is an effort to profit from the outpouring of support for Martin.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:30 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
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right up to the end travon was handicapped by having neglectful parents,
who are now shopping a victim story book to milk travons death for yet more profit

Did they not trade mark their dead son name almost at once?
I don t begrudge capitalism to anyone.
Gather ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying;
And this same flower that smiles today,
Tomorrow will be dying.

Make hay while the sun shines
.
coldjoint
 
  0  
Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:43 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Marvel- lous
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firefly
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
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trying to set Travon to rights is why pops went to bed knowing that travon did not come home to watch the game as planned, did not know where Travon was, and made zero effort to find out.....

I've already told you that isn't true. So why are you flat out lying?

Tracey Martin was very upset when he came home and found Trayvon wasn't there. He immediately tried to call him, but Trayvon's cell phone went to voice mail. He then tried to call Trayvon's cousin, thinking he might be with him, but he got the cousin's voice mail as well. Trayvon had no friends in the area for him to call. He didn't know what the hell to do. The police aren't interested in a teen who has been missing for only a few hours.

Early the next morning, Mr. Martin spoke with the cousin and found out he didn't know where Trayvon was either, and that's when he called the police--they hadn't known who Trayvon was either, he didn't have a driver's license and he had no I.D. on him. That's when the police showed up where Martin was staying, and showed him a photo of Trayvon's corpse for him to identify.

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right up to the end travon was handicapped by having neglectful parents, who are now shopping a victim story book to milk travons death for yet more profit.

Trayvon Martin was needlessly killed by George Zimmerman--who, after erroneously racially profiling him, instigated and provoked a needless and avoidable encounter, because of his lack of judgment and impulse control.

Stop blaming everyone but George Zimmerman for Zimmerman's actions.

Yes, Martin's parents are also victims of George Zimmerman, and victims of people like you who, with no knowledge of these people, illogically decide they were "neglectful parents" because George Zimmerman acted in a way to needlessly cause their son's death.

And you're the one trying to help sell a fairy tale about Zimmerman being the victim.

The one trying to milk Trayvon Martin's death for profit is his asshole killer who is peddling his crappy painting on ebay right now--his only claim to "fame" is having killed an unarmed kid. And the "original" art he's selling is a stolen image from Shutterstock he just painted over. And I'm sure it's Zimmerman and his family who have bid up the price of the painting themselves, just to get media attention.

It's interesting, in the very peculiar Q & A on the ebay listing page, that Zimmerman says no money from the sale of the painting will go to pay Mark O'Mara. That should really sit well with O'Mara. The man helps Zimmerman beat a murder rap, but Zimmerman doesn't seem to think he owes him anything. What a twisted piece of work George Zimmerman is.

Stop lying about Tracey Martin, Hawkeye. You just sound like a dishonest jerk

Trayvon Martin's parents would be exactly the kind of people that Bill Cosby would point to as an example of what other black parents should be doing with their children. And Cosby knows what it's like to lose a son. His son, Ennis, was also a homicide victim, at the hands of a white man with a gun.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:48 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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Cicerone said: @RF-What a freak! We all belong to the "human race." Our biologies are the same.

Well why don't i feel any desire to sexually mate with black/brown/yellow/red women?
Is there something wrong with my DNA programming?
Or is my DNA perfect and it's other people's DNA that's wonky?
No kidding, if I'm walking down a back street near the dockyard and a black hooker tries to sweet-talk me, I just look at the ground and walk on by.
But if it's a white woman, I still walk by, but my hormones and heartbeat are racing around my system like the Indy 500..Smile

PS- 'Roots' is being re-run on Brit TV and the other night Doug McClure tried to force himself on a black slave girl and I thought- "You're welcome to her mate".
Same in 'Shogun', Richard Chamberlain had the hots for a Japanese bird but she left me cold!
With all respect, Romeo,
Orientals shud not be conceptually combined in with the blacks.
Please note also that (not counting sunburns), no red women have ever existed.

Looking for a red woman
wud be like looking for Bigfoot.





David
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coldjoint
 
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Wed 18 Dec, 2013 02:51 pm
@firefly,
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Stop blaming everyone but George Zimmerman for Zimmerman's actions.


Stop blaming a guy for defending his life. There is no blame. Just a frenzy stirred up to divide people even more, and give hypocrites, like you, the spotlight.
 

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