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The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

 
 
BillRM
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Zimmerman's wounds were MINOR with NO TRAUMA.


An once more it does no matter if Trayvon had not been able to cripple or serous harm Zimmerman before being stop as a Prosecutor own witness on self defense stated you do not need to wait until your attacker had done serous harm to you before stopping him.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:38 pm
@BillRM,
Oh, can Frank bang your head against the cement as demonstrated by O'Mara during the trial? PLEASE!

If you'll let Frank do that, I'lll call the media and the police to witness first hand what Trayvon did to Zimmerman. Okay?

OmSigDAVID
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:39 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Zimmerman was not found "innocent."

Your ignorance about legalize is classic.
How many times do you need to be told this before it sinks into your dead brain?
I am brushing u off.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Oh, goodie!
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firefly
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:41 pm
@cicerone imposter,
To repeat, C.I....

I didn't mean the slight nosebleed was emotionally traumatic. I'm not using the term to refer to emotional trauma, I'm using it to refer to physical trauma. The medical cause for the nose bleed is minor trauma--any blow to the nose is considered "trauma" to the nose. It's a descriptive medical term to describe causation.

People can also have spontaneous nosebleeds without any trauma. I had one of those once.

And the trauma to Zimmerman's nose was very minor, it wasn't a strong blow to the nose, consequently the injury to his nose was very minor. That's why he required no treatment at all, not that night, and not afterward.

And I think it was caused when he got hit in the nose by his gun, while struggling with Martin over the gun. There's no evidence Martin punched him in the nose, the minor trauma to his nose might have been caused by his gun hitting him in the nose, which could happen in a struggle over a gun.

It's possible that Martin never hit Zimmerman at all.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:42 pm
@firefly,
You,
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And the trauma to Zimmerman's nose was very minor, it wasn't a strong blow to the nose, and the injury to his nose was very minor. That's why he required no treatment at all.


But that's still called "medical trauma?" News to me!
firefly
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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But that's still called "medical trauma?" News to me!

Medically, just describing an injury as having been caused "by trauma" doesn't mean it's serious, nor does it indicate the degree of trauma--the trauma (or blow) could be extremely minor. Any blow to the nose can be considered a trauma to the nose if it causes some bleeding. It doesn't indicate severe or significant damage, some people just bleed more easily, particularly if they've taken an Aspirin.
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BillRM
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 06:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Oh, can Frank bang your head against the cement as demonstrated by O'Mara during the trial? PLEASE!


Can I then put a bullet through Frank heart to demonstrated Zimmerman act of self defense?

You would after all wish for a complete demonstration would you not?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 07:15 pm
@BillRM,
Yes, but he must be banging your head against the cement first - or you can't call it self-defense. Funny, how that works.
firefly
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 07:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
BillRM acts as though he has a private video of the encounter that incontrovertibly shows exactly what happened. Laughing

If such a video were actually discovered tomorrow, and it showed that Martin did not "attack" Zimmerman, or sucker-punch him, but rather that Zimmerman reached for his gun, or pulled it out, and that Martin's reaction was clearly self-defensive, and a struggle for the gun ensued, knocking Zimmerman down, onto grass not concrete, and in that struggle his nose got hit with the gun, and there was no beating or head-pounding, and that he still shot Martin at the first opportunity he could, BillRM would still refuse to believe it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 07:41 pm
@firefly,
They never consider "self-defense" for the victim. We all know where their heads resides - in their arse. Self-defense works both ways - not always in favor of one side or the other. They can't accept this simple rule of law.

They just have to wish they have a prosecution like the Zimmerman case; total incompetence.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 07:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Just one of those things - about the prosecution.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/02/bumbling-prosecution-making-zimmerman-trial-difficult-watch.html
BillRM
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 09:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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They never consider "self-defense" for the victim


Sure we did that is all we been talking about the right of the victim Zimmerman to self defense.

I know you can not think for a moment that the dead attacker have some right of self defense.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 09:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They never consider "self-defense" for the victim. We all know where their heads resides - in their arse. Self-defense works both ways - not always in favor of one side or the other. They can't accept this simple rule of law.

They just have to wish they have a prosecution like the Zimmerman case; total incompetence.


They have to consider the guy toting the gun and using it to kill someone...as a victim in some way...in order to excuse their desire to use their weapon to kill someone.

Bill is especially off-the-wall. But according to the law, people like him are allowed to own guns.

Seems incredible doesn't it?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 10:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
You notice, Frank? These bozos can't do any better than to give us a thumb's down. Equates to their mental level; up their arse!
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BillRM
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 10:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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They have to consider the guy toting the gun and using it to kill someone...as a victim in some way...in order to excuse their desire to use their weapon to kill someone.


So if you have a gun you can never be a victim of an attack is that your crazy logical and you of course can never employ that gun to even save your live from an attacker as to do so turn your attacker into the victim.

Talking about going down the rabbit hole into wonderland better known as your mind Frank.

As far as Zimmerman all the evidence and a lie detector test as whip cream on top of it pointed only in the direction of Zimmerman being the victim gun or no gun on him at the time of Trayvon attack.

Of course if Zimmerman had been disarmed there would had been no national news coverage of a hoodlum beating to death a crime watch captain as that kind of event is all too common.
RABEL222
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 10:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I said all along during the trial it was obvious that the prosecution wasent interested in getting a conviction. What I dont understand is why.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 10:48 pm
@RABEL222,
It was only obvious to the people who aren't pro-Zimmerman.
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BillRM
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 10:55 pm
@RABEL222,
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I said all along during the trial it was obvious that the prosecution wasent interested in getting a conviction. What I dont understand is why.


They have no case an knew it going in but was force to go ahead for political reasons?

On top of that they needed to charge him with second degree murder that they knew that they have no chance at all for a jury to buy into instead of manslaughter that they have a slight chance of selling to a jury.

Knowing you are going to get your ass kick in front of a national stage can not be fun.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 15 Dec, 2013 11:14 pm
@BillRM,
Funny you have the gall to tell anyone else their ass being kicked. You've been kicked so often, you no longer feel it. Mr. Green
 

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