The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@izzythepush,

You are so bended out of shape over my stand that the great British army selling officers ranks for money instead of awarding rank by merit as the French Army did during the Napoleon era was stupid, that you feel the need to bring the debate onto this thread?

My my you had not been happy from the first with me when you try to claimed that Americans did not died before Pearl Harbor and just collected money selling you arms and I showed that you was full of bullshit over that issue.

Come on even the US is not perfect let alone your nation....... Rolling Eyes

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@BillRM,

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You are so [BENT out of shape over my stand that the great British army selling officers ranks for money instead of awarding rank by merit as the French Army did during the Napoleon era was stupid,

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You aren't making your argument very well for the Napoleonic forces.

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@BillRM,

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By the way does the jury who agree with me and found Zimmerman innocent need help also?

The jury never agreed that Trayvon Martin was "a young would be murderer who have the bad luck of trying to killed an armed man."

The only verdict they rendered had to do with whether Zimmerman was guilty of murder--and they found him Not Guilty, not "innocent" as you stupidly keep claiming. Unlike you, they didn't confuse which one was the defendant. They rendered no judgment about Trayvon Martin. There was no way they could know whether Martin had been the one trying to defend himself from a crazy stalker with a gun. The verdict was only regarding Zimmerman's behavior and it pertained to whether the state had proved it's murder charge against him.

And the juror who said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder," certainly doesn't agree with you.

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@farmerman,

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You aren't making your argument very well for the Napoleonic forces.

You mean the force that deal with being attacked by most of the rest of Europe nations joined in a number of anti French coalitions for a decade and in fact overrunning most of Europe using the merit system for rank?

That record does not count due to the lost at Waterloo and prove that the British was right in selling ranks?

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

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By the way does the jury who agree with me and found Zimmerman innocent need help also?
And the juror who said, "George Zimmerman got away with murder," certainly doesn't agree with you.

"A juror will not be heard
to impeach his own verdict."

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@OmSigDAVID,

Zimmerman was not found "innocent."

Your ignorance about legalize is classic.
How many times do you need to be told this before it sinks into your dead brain?

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@BillRM,

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You are seriously in need of professional help, Bill.

Sure I do as I am of the opinion that you have a right of self defense against a teenager trying to killed you no matter what your skin color happen to be and whatever the skin color of your attacker happen to be.

Zimmerman have no duty to allowed himself to be killed or cripple at the hands of Trayvon no matter who called Trayvon a child or even if the President ID himself with your attacker either as a son or himself in his younger years.

By the way does the jury who agree with me and found Zimmerman innocent need help also?

The jury did not find Zimmerman "innocent"...they found him "not guilty." That is required of them if they think the prosecution has not made a convincing case.

But a finding of "not guilty" is a long way off from "innocent."

You ought to find someone to kill...and finally get to scratch this itch you have bothering you.

Then maybe you'll be able to think reasonably about these kinds of things.

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@Frank Apisa,

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But a finding of "not guilty" is a long way off from "innocent."

What's a "fair trial" a long way from?

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@spendius,

You,

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What's a "fair trial" a long way from?

You wouldn't know a "fair trial" if you were found guilty of a crime.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

That's why we don't give children
that age gun permits to carry concealed weapons.

Fortunately, for their personal defense,
thay don 't need your permission to bear defensive guns
any more than thay need it to get beer or marijuana, right Firefly???

That 's AMERICA, to ME !

David

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@BillRM,

This photo doesn't prove anything, BillRM, other than that Zimmerman apparently had a minor trauma to his nose, and there is no evidence of how that trauma came about, other than Zimmerman's self-serving version of what happened..

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSK4PO3ozAZ4k4QrFK4AVe3D2wMQwAtwvtsqqX11JQz_FL0wBU7

This official police photo is how he looked in the police station a short time later that same night, after he wiped the dramatic looking blood off his face--he looked fine.
'

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4fb575b1ecad04c70c000015/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-crime-scene.jpg

Have you ever considered the possibility that Zimmerman hit himself in the nose with his gun, or that he got hit in the nose with his gun during a struggle over the gun with Martin, and that Martin never hit him at all?

Considering there is no physical evidence to support any "beating" or "head-pounding", and none of Zimmerman's DNA or blood was found on Martin's hands, what makes you think Trayvon Martin ever hit him at all? What makes you think he didn't get hit in the nose with his gun, as Martin, in self-defense, struggled with him to try to get his gun away from him? It's entirely plausible that that's what happened.

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@BillRM,

Answer the question. You argued against the caste system by, erroneously, comparing it to the British army selling commissions during the Napoleonic wars. You contrasted that with the French. When it was pointed out that it was a lousy analogy because the British defeated the French you came out with a load of flannel. Then Walter then pointed out that the French were not that much different, that bribes and nepotism were rife. In true BillRM style, you forgot what you were arguing about and you said that you knew it all along, even giving examples.

Are you prepared to answer the question, do you still your analogy was sound?

I never said no Americans died before Pearl Harbor. Who would make such a claim? I'm sure Buffalo Bill was defunct by then.

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@firefly,

From personal experience of having had many bloody nose, I don't rate any one as "traumatic." I always knew they would stop - by plugging it with toilet paper.

I don't think it's any more traumatic than women's menstrual periods - for the majority.

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@izzythepush,

They defeat them by winning one battle after getting the **** kicked out of them for 19 years or so.

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@izzythepush,

izzy, why are you starting that discussion in this thread?

BillRM's ADD, and his constant digressions, are bad enough without your help.

Please, continue your discussion with him, about the topic you're raising, in the thread that's appropriate for it. Repost your question in that thread, and provide a link to it here.

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@cicerone imposter,

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I don't rate any one as "traumatic." I always knew they would stop - by plugging it with toilet paper.

Does not matter one little bit that Trayvon was stop before doing serous harm to Zimmerman and Zimmerman wounds back Zimmerman story hundred percent.

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@BillRM,

For the very last time: Zimmerman's wounds were MINOR with NO TRAUMA.

These FACTS only shows you are a liar and wasted human plug.

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@cicerone imposter,

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From personal experience of having had many bloody nose, I don't rate any one as "traumatic."

I didn't mean the slight nosebleed was emotionally traumatic. The medical cause for the nose bleed is minor trauma--any blow to the nose is considered "trauma" to the nose. It's a medical term. People can also have spontaneous nosebleeds without any trauma. I had one of those once.

Zimmerman's nose didn't even need to be plugged with toilet paper--it wasn't bleeding that heavily, and it had stopped bleeding by the time that the cell phone photo, showing the blood, was taken. His nose required no treatment.

And I do think it's possible that Zimmerman got hit in the nose with his gun during a struggle with Martin over the gun, and that Martin may never have punched him at all. That's really very plausible.

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@firefly,

In my younger days, I fought a lot, and had many bloody noses. I never considered them "traumatic" by any sense of that word.

From Wiki.

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There are many causes of injury that can affect a person in different ways, both anatomically and physiologically. Depending on the severity of injury, quick management and transport to an appropriate facility may be necessary to prevent loss of life or limb. Various classification scales exist for use with trauma to determine the severity of injuries, which is used to determine the resources used and for statistical collection. The initial assessment is critical in determining the extent of injuries and what will be needed to manage an injury. The assessment involves a physical evaluation and can also include the use of imaging tools to accurately determine a type of injury and to formulate a course of treatment.

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trau·ma
ˈtroumə,ˈtrô-/Submit
noun
1.
a deeply distressing or disturbing experience.
"they were reluctant to talk about the traumas of the revolution"

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@Frank Apisa,

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You ought to find someone to kill...and finally get to scratch this itch you have bothering you.

Well if you would like to knocked me down and then try to pound my brain out while also trying to stop me from breathing or mount any other attacks that would place me in reasonable fear of deaths or great harm I will cheerfully killed you in order to save my life and so would my wife for that matter.

However baring that kind of life threatening attack of the nature Trayvon launched on Zimmerman the large rat that I killed that my cats had corner in my home is likely to remain the largest living thing that will meet it end at my hands during the remainder of my life span.

Footnote I did feel a little bad over killing the rat but I needed to do it for the safety of my cats but I can not see myself feeling bad over ending the life of someone like Trayvon who would attempt to end another human life to show how big of a "man" he happen to be.

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