The State of Florida vs George Zimmerman: The Trial

@hawkeye10,

Beside when attacked by someone big enough to beat you to death who give the **** if he is legally an adult or not?

Cops had killed younger teens then 17 years old that was a risk to their or other lives.

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@BillRM,

When cops were found to be responsible for a wrongful death, they've been charged for the crime - and usually dismissed from the police force.

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@hawkeye10,

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americans of his age are routinely considered adults by the law, put into the adult legal system and judged as adults. LEGALLY your argument is BS.

That doesn't actually make them adults, it means when they commit particularly heinous crimes, they are sometimes adjudicated as adults. And I really don't agree with that sort of thing either.

And it doesn't change the fact that Trayvon Martin was not an adult, not legally, and not developmentally. Emotionally, and neurologically, a barely 17 year old is not an adult, he's still a child. That's why we don't give children that age gun permits to carry concealed weapons.

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@cicerone imposter,

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As usual, you don't know shyt.

Teens who are younger then even 17 and had done such serous crimes as murdering someone or trying to murder someone or raping someone are routine tried as adults under most states laws.

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@cicerone imposter,

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When cops were found to be responsible for a wrongful death, they've been charged for the crime - and usually dismissed from the police force.

An that have something to do with killing minors that are a danger to them or others?

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@BillRM,

http://wemeantwell.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/head_up_ass.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

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They are "white trash" of the worst kind; they spread rumors, lies, distortions, and innuendos like the GOP and FOX News that are based on FICTION.

Ci, what makes you think the feeble minded Advocate doesn't fall into this category of trailer trash? You read as if Advocate is an onlooker when by all accounts he's a participant of the lowest depraved order.

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@Moment-in-Time,

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Ci, what makes you think the feeble minded Advocate doesn't fall into this category of trailer trash?

Whites are the only group that it is still PC to make such comments about and I love it when people like you and CI reveal your true "colors" by doing so.

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@BillRM,

Oh, what is my "true color?" Please explain in DETAIL, because I'm interested.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Oh, what is my "true color?" Please explain in DETAIL, because I'm interested.

You figure it out my racist friend.

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@firefly,

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And it doesn't change the fact that Trayvon Martin was not an adult, not legally, and not developmentally. Emotionally, and neurologically, a barely 17 year old is not an adult, he's still a child

there are a lot of 25 year olds running around making the same argument that they should not be judged as adults. the whole childhood thing is largely a recent construct stemming from affluence, the borderline is so artificial, the age of transition is pick not based upon the state of the individual but rather Utopian dreams of social organization. it gets us to the place were we feel free to criminalize the act of anyone under 18 being sexual, over 5 year after the average age of menarche, which is nuts.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

These gun nuts simply want a shooter to be able to say he killed self-defense, make up any cock and bull story, and have it believed, unquestioningly, by the police, and any attempt to hold the shooter accountable, they see as a "malicious prosecution". They want an unfettered license to kill.

And they're celebrating Zimmerman's acquittal because, for them, it represents that license to kill, even though the killing in this case was needless and totally avoidable.

Especially well said, Firefly.

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@hawkeye10,

What 25 year olds say to deny they are adults are simple opinions without any legal status. You can declare that you're stupid; it might be true, but in the legal world, it means absolutely nothing.

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@BillRM,

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I'm "anti-Zimmerman" because he needlessly killed a child. I can empathize with how his parents felt when they lost their child.

Some child hell I would bet he would had try to killed you for daring to call him a child.

He was a young would be murderer who have the bad luck of trying to killed an armed man.

You are seriously in need of professional help, Bill.

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@BillRM,

You,

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You figure it out my racist friend.

Prove that I'm a racist? You also can't prove that I'm your friend.

Two lies in one five word sentence must be some kind of new record. Mr. Green

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@Frank Apisa,

firefly wrote:

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These gun nuts simply want a shooter to be able to say he killed self-defense, make up any cock and bull story, and have it believed, unquestioningly, by the police, and any attempt to hold the shooter accountable, they see as a "malicious prosecution". They want an unfettered license to kill.

And they're celebrating Zimmerman's acquittal because, for them, it represents that license to kill, even though the killing in this case was needless and totally avoidable.

Especially well said, Firefly.

LOL.....Once more

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@Frank Apisa,

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You are seriously in need of professional help, Bill.

Sure I do as I am of the opinion that you have a right of self defense against a teenager trying to killed you no matter what your skin color happen to be and whatever the skin color of your attacker happen to be.

Zimmerman have no duty to allowed himself to be killed or cripple at the hands of Trayvon no matter who called Trayvon a child or even if the President ID himself with your attacker either as a son or himself in his younger years.

By the way does the jury who agree with me and found Zimmerman innocent need help also?

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@BillRM,

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Whites are the only group that it is still PC to make such comments about ...

"Trailer trash" and even "white trash" are not racial slurs about all whites, they really aren't racial slurs at all, they describe someone who is at the bottom of the barrel in terms of their social behavior and attitudes, and generally in terms of their socio-economic status. It's no different than calling someone a "redneck", a term also applied to some white people.

Now you want to call out the PC police and have them put those terms off limits? I thought you didn't support all that PC "nonsense"? You're such a hypocrite. Laughing

And, they are specifically talking about you BillRM, and people like you, not white people generally....

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@cicerone imposter,

BillRm has difficulty proving anything. I'm still waiting for an answer to this post, after his sloppy reasoning collapsed in front of him.

http://able2know.org/topic/228687-3#post-5520504

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@hawkeye10,

It's not arbitrary, Hawkeye, and it's not "a construct stemming from affluence", the human brain continues to develop until about the mid-20's. We know that now because we have better ways of charting and measuring and evaluating neurological brain development than we previously had. We used to think adult brain development had been reached by age 18.

Trayvon Martin was not an adult, not legally, and not developmentally. Emotionally, and neurologically, a barely 17 year old is not an adult, he's still a child. It is quite correct to refer to him as a child. And it's because he was a child, that he couldn't buy cigarettes or beer, in that 7/11 store.

And there is a definite reason auto insurance premiums are much higher in that age group. In addition to allowing them to have driver's licenses, would you also want to see barely 17 year olds have the right to obtain permits to carry concealed weapons as well? Should Trayvon Martin have been as legally armed as George Zimmerman that night?

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